First of all many thanks for your detailed and constructive feedback. 2012/5/15 Andrew Chadwick (lists) <[email protected]>: >> Still open, so please provide feedback: >> * Decision if traffic_calming=chicane or traffic_calming=island should >> be used in two of the examples > Chicanes look very different, and wouldn't be confused with roundabouts > anyway. Best avoid mentioning them. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicane#Traffic_calming
I already changed the example to traffic_calming=island and removed any reference to chicane. So I guess traffic_calming=island is hereby approved, as no one objects. > Some other feedback: > > 0. Box description needs a really nice clear photograph! Hopefully it's nice enough. Done. > 1. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Traffic_circle currently > redirects to the Tag:junction=roundabout. This is in conflict with your > new text and the existing text because "traffic circles" apparently do > not grant right of way to the circulating traffic: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_circle . It's US English > terminology, not British English, but it's a good distinction to retain > if you ask me. I'll keep that in mind. I guess we need a new article about traffic circles then. > 2. Needs to explain what "traversable" means. I would be very thankful for some suggestion here, as I'm not a native speaker. > 3. Drop the "A roundabout is" from the box Description for brevity. Done. > 4. "be anywhere" => "have any size" :) I copied that from the original article ;-) > 5. The introductory blurb re the "Danger of confusion" sounds a bit > alarmist. Perhaps it's just the section title. I would drop this para > since whatever title we choose will be right there in the Contents box. Moved it below the examples. I can't think of a better name though. > 6. I'm happy to tweak the English text as needed once it's up; poke me > when it's done. Or should I just dive in and reword? I'll come back to you for sure! ;-) > 7. "How to map" => needs a gentler introductory paragraph going over > things at a high level before you get into the detail of how everything > should be done. Suggest something like "Start by drawing a circular > shape, and make its tags match the roads which connect with it." or > maybe something more. > 7a. The detailed instructions tagging might be more digestible in > billet-point form. Better? > 8. "Editor support for circles" seems too prominent where it is, and > nobody's really bothered about the neatening tools at first. I suggest > demoting this to a later section, and maybe retitling it as "Drawing > neater circles". I'm not sure about that. I'm afraid that people will oversee it at the end of the article. And there are already enough complains, that drawing a circle is so difficult. > 9. "Examples" section: these are not really examples; they're closer to > explanations of how to continue road tagging through a roundabout. I > like the visual explanations of how to to classify the roundabout w.r.t. > the ways connecting to it. > 9a. Ideally, the example section needs some good photographic examples > with big thumbnails and clear explanations of what tags to use. I didn't add any examples before, because they would all be tagged identically. Now I added a nice selection of photos. Better? > 10. "Danger of confusion". The title still sounds a bit alarmist! Not > sure how to retitle it though. "Features which look like roundabouts, > but aren't"? I'm not a native speaker, but "Features which look like roundabouts, but aren't"? Really? ;-) > 10a. Perhaps it could be merged with the Examples section usefully. Yes, it could and it was. I also think, it's better now. > 11. It's important that the example photos of things which are _not_ > roundabouts should be made much more distinguishable from the photos of > things which _are_ roundabouts. This is because people who do not speak > German, English or Russian well will be looking at the photographs and > not the words; if the distinction is unclear from the form of the page, > we may be compounding the problem of mistagging. Hm. There is a photo and the correct tagging right beside it. What more is needed? Suggestions? Thanks again! Martin _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
