Am 23.06.2013 22:10, schrieb martinq:
> Note: I know that in US there are weight limits depending on the number
> of axles, but this could be tagged (later or already?) by conditional
> tagging like maxgross_weight = X @ axles>3; Y @ axles>4...
In Germany it's similar: there are weight restrictions sometimes given
as maximum-per-axis-weight, indicated by traffic sign 263 (see
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Zeichen_263.svg ), which is
similar, but not the same.


> 2) Trailers: In fact the gross weight applies to trailer and main truck
> separately [as far as I know, since both are more or less legally
> treated as separate vehicles], thus if there is a limit of gross 3.5t,
> then the truck gross and the trailer gross must be below, but both
> together can exceed the limit [as far as I know this also applies to
> weight limits, e.g. at bridge with max 3.5t weight limit the trailer and
> the truck are evaluated separately, but I haven't cross checked this].
> 
> But does this affect the proposed tagging? We tag the rules (e.g. here
> is a gross weight limitation), but not how they have to be applied in a
> specific case (does this limit apply for trailer and truck separately or
> combined?).

What's these restrictions used for?
If anybody uses them from the osm data (and if we tag them, that should
be our target), a scenario would be the trucker planning how to get from
A to B - e.g. by an osm based navigation system.

This could be configured for the invididual truck:
- maximum axe load: x tons
- maximum gross weight: y tons
- weight: z tons (with current load of course)
(and of course width, length, height...)

Now he want's to get a route, and this has to be definitively possible
to go. Getting to a bridge with a truck and realizing you have to turn
around on a street really hurts - and it costs a lot of time, even if
the trucker can make it.

So for the trucker estimations should be possible to make conservative:
If there's a restriction in OSM and that fits for me under any
reasonable interpretation, than it's a bug in OSM if I'm not
able/allowed to drive there.

With this it would be:
- max_weight: the maximum weight of the complete vehicle (including
truck and trailer, in the German traffic rules (Straßenverkehrsordnung,
StVO) that's a "Zug"; if I interpret my dictionary right, in English
it's a road train.
- maximum gross weight: (however the tag is called then): the maximum
weight the complete road train is allowed to have if fully loaded.

regards
Peter

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