I was being facetious. Hence the smiley faces. The comment wasn't
intended to be taken seriously.
J
http://bigfatfrog67.me
On 01/12/2013 21:59, Peter Wendorff wrote:
I would say it assumes hat cyclists in theory have to obey traffic rules
and a map should reflect what they have to do, not what they do.
Walkers cross lawns wherever they want if that's a shortcut and rules
against that aren't enforced strictly, but we don't map any possible
shortcut.
regards
Peter
Am 01.12.2013 22:47, schrieb Jonathan:
:-) This whole discussion assumes cyclists obey traffic rules! In the
UK cyclists ride where they like! :-)
http://bigfatfrog67.me
On 01/12/2013 21:38, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
On 1 December 2013 10:04, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I mean that bicycle=no bans bicycles from the road, while the actual
situation is that you have to use the cycleway if it leads where you are
going (and nothing bans you from using the road). If you want to turn
left
for instance but the cycleway goes straight, you can use the road.
There is
no ban of bikes on the road.
I don't think this is true in the Netherlands. Situations like you
describe are quite rare in the Netherlands, but I did find one:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Marconibaan,+Nieuwegein,+The+Netherlands&hl=en&ll=52.02938,5.101267&spn=0.001149,0.004823&sll=51.566277,5.062965&sspn=0.002574,0.004823&oq=marconibaan&t=h&hnear=Marconibaan,+Nieuwegein,+The+Netherlands&z=18&layer=c&cbll=52.029299,5.10157&panoid=3G1tWOtoUdO_1hUBl5deXw&cbp=11,219.58,,0,2.4
I would expect that cyclists are not allowed to turn left on this
crossing at all, and I don't think they would be allowed to use the
main road here.
I'm also not sure why you think it is like you describe in Germany. It
certainly is not explicitly written like that in the law. Could you
point me to an example of such a crossing in Germany?
Perhaps the answer depends on the meaning of 'leading into the same
direction' in the convention: does making a turn qualifies as going in
a different direction, or does it just refer to forward and backward?
-- Matthijs
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