free quote from I'm not sure whom: Make your sentence idiot proof and there will be a "better" idiot. I know, but I know that there are people who don't read your smileys correctly. That shouldn't be an offense against you.
;) regards Peter Am 02.12.2013 20:27, schrieb Jonathan: > I was being facetious. Hence the smiley faces. The comment wasn't > intended to be taken seriously. > > J > > http://bigfatfrog67.me > > On 01/12/2013 21:59, Peter Wendorff wrote: >> I would say it assumes hat cyclists in theory have to obey traffic rules >> and a map should reflect what they have to do, not what they do. >> Walkers cross lawns wherever they want if that's a shortcut and rules >> against that aren't enforced strictly, but we don't map any possible >> shortcut. >> >> regards >> Peter >> >> Am 01.12.2013 22:47, schrieb Jonathan: >>> :-) This whole discussion assumes cyclists obey traffic rules! In the >>> UK cyclists ride where they like! :-) >>> >>> http://bigfatfrog67.me >>> >>> On 01/12/2013 21:38, Matthijs Melissen wrote: >>>> On 1 December 2013 10:04, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> I mean that bicycle=no bans bicycles from the road, while the actual >>>>> situation is that you have to use the cycleway if it leads where >>>>> you are >>>>> going (and nothing bans you from using the road). If you want to turn >>>>> left >>>>> for instance but the cycleway goes straight, you can use the road. >>>>> There is >>>>> no ban of bikes on the road. >>>> I don't think this is true in the Netherlands. Situations like you >>>> describe are quite rare in the Netherlands, but I did find one: >>>> >>>> https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Marconibaan,+Nieuwegein,+The+Netherlands&hl=en&ll=52.02938,5.101267&spn=0.001149,0.004823&sll=51.566277,5.062965&sspn=0.002574,0.004823&oq=marconibaan&t=h&hnear=Marconibaan,+Nieuwegein,+The+Netherlands&z=18&layer=c&cbll=52.029299,5.10157&panoid=3G1tWOtoUdO_1hUBl5deXw&cbp=11,219.58,,0,2.4 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I would expect that cyclists are not allowed to turn left on this >>>> crossing at all, and I don't think they would be allowed to use the >>>> main road here. >>>> >>>> I'm also not sure why you think it is like you describe in Germany. It >>>> certainly is not explicitly written like that in the law. Could you >>>> point me to an example of such a crossing in Germany? >>>> >>>> Perhaps the answer depends on the meaning of 'leading into the same >>>> direction' in the convention: does making a turn qualifies as going in >>>> a different direction, or does it just refer to forward and backward? >>>> >>>> -- Matthijs >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tagging mailing list >>>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
