Hm I don't believe these people are reading our discussion. I'll try to track down their usernames among the dozens of changesets and contact them. Perhaps it would also be a good idea to involve the whole community of these countries (by posting a short call to talk-ar, talk-no and talk-au), both to avoid misunderstandings and to see if they find France's solution appropriate to their situation.
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote: > Hi, > > On 27.12.2013 02:46, Fernando Trebien wrote: > > In principle, if Antarctic territories' status is said to be only > > "claimed" (as described by the Antarctic Treaty), they can't be > > considered "de facto", therefore they shouldn't currently be specified > > as members of the boundary relations of Norway, Australia and Argentina > > using an "outer" role (as they are right now), right? > > I find it strange that they are but obviously at least one person > thought it would be a good idea or else they wouldn's. Is that person > "in the loop" here, or are we discussing their mapping without them > knowing? > > Having remote overseas bits and pieces included in a country relation > makes some things difficult. The boundary of France seems to exist twice > - once in a simple multipolygon-like boundary relation with one outer > ring for the mainland and one for Corse, which is what one would more or > less expect: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1403916 > > and then there's another nice hierarchical construct which is more > correct but likely less usable, which includes, through indirection, all > the overseas bits and pieces that France has accumulated over the > centuries: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2202162 > > Maybe this could be the way to go for other countries too - have one > relation that for most intents and purposes is "the boundary" but have > another one that collects their various claims and overseas territories. > There's also the case of some territories technically belonging to one > country but on a 100-year lease to another country and where that other > country's law applies and so on. I guess we must make room in OSM for > those who want to model such details, without making things unusable for > the majority. > > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 "The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months." (Moore's law) "The speed of software halves every 18 months." (Gates' law)
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