On 2014-02-02 02:15, André Pirard wrote:
> On 2014-02-01 17:39, Colin Smale wrote : > > On 2014-02-01 17:30, Masi Master wrote: > > Normally traffic signs belongs to the road to the next intersection/crossing. > > That depends on the country - different jurisdictions have different > conventions. In the UK the sign's effect is often "until further notice", > i.e. until there is another sign telling you differently. It doesn't > automatically get nullified at the first side road like it does in many > countries. Strange to me again because the reason why the signs HAVE TO be repeated is that drivers entering the road at that "next crossing" wouldn't know them otherwise. How do the UK drivers know? They have to use their memory. The legal basis is also often different. There is often (it depends on the sign/restriction) a "Traffic Order" which says something like "the road from A to B is now 30mph maximum speed" and prima facie you are committing an offence if you disobey the order whether there are signs or not. However you can defend yourself in court by saying the signs were absent, hidden, confusing etc. So the highway authority has to be reasonable about putting up signs, and it is your problem if you miss one. In NL at least the offence is created by the sign itself, so no sign = no offence. By the way, diving off-topic for a second, their memory is not tested as much as drivers on Dutch motorways. You may have to have a stack of up to 5 speed limits at any one time. Imagine encountering the following signs, in order: 1) start of motorway - class of road says it is 130 2) static sign says it is 120 3) static sign also says it is 100 between 0700 and 1900 4) temporary static sign says it is 90 (e.g. for roadworks) 5) overhead displays say temporary speed limit is 70 (e.g. for congestion ahead) 6) in the course of the traffic jam you see a temporary static sign at the end of the road works which says "end of 90 limit" (black circle, diagonal bar, grey 90 visible) 7) overhead displays say "end of restriction" (circle with diagonal bar) What is the speed limit after sign 6 (the time is 1859)? And after sign 7? And why is everybody suddenly overtaking you? There is a catch at point 7) - end of restriction on overhead displays now only cancel limits from overhead displays. So is the limit after sign 6) 100, or 130?
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