PS: the onsen icon (♨) is always for an amenity - a hotel or resort that offers a hot spring bath, or a purpose-built, stand alone structure (crude or ornate) just to provide a bathing experience - but it is not just a hole in the ground with a rope around it. It is always an amenity offered by a business, similar to a lap swimming pool vs a pond, or a fire hydrant vs a spring.
Javbw On Mar 5, 2014, at 10:13 AM, johnw <jo...@mac.com> wrote: > The onsen icon (♨) is commonly used all over Japan (of course), and is a > great icon (a hot bath with steam rising out) to represent a place to get a > hot natural bath vs a natural park's hot-spring. "Onsen" always means > naturally sourced hot water as well, vs a bathhouse (amenity=spa? showers?), > which merely heats up the water with a boiler for you to use. > > amenity=hot_spring_bath might be a good differentiation, because ♨ = bath > > Javbw > > On Mar 5, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Satoshi IIDA <nyamp...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > So the idea is to have >> > natural=hot_spring - the hole in earth where hot water is comming out >> I see :) >> >> So I prefer to switch the icon from Onsen icon ♨ to another ones. >> it ♨ maybe to use for leisure/amenity scheme. >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014-03-04 21:10 GMT+09:00 Richard Z. <ricoz....@gmail.com>: >> On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 03:50:30PM +0900, Satoshi IIDA wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > +1 to Tobias. >> > >> > I feel it needs clarification for this tag scope. >> > >> > I think it was "leisure=hot_spring" once, >> > and switched to "natural=hot_spring". >> >> exactly. >> >> > So the main purpose of this scheme is now "natural". >> > Like to represent a geyser or some natural features, it seems. >> > >> > So it is better to make another tag scheme to represent "Onsen" ♨ bathing >> > facility. >> >> as you mentioned we already have various methods to map bathing facilities, >> thanks for pointing out leisure=public_bath. >> >> So the idea is to have >> natural=hot_spring - the hole in earth where hot water is comming out >> + natural=water - if there is a pool of water around it >> + water_characteristic - attached to both spring and water >> + all other related facilities mapped with their own well known tags such >> as tourism=attraction, amenity=public_bath, leisure=beach_resort, >> natural=beach, sport=swimming .. please add those which I have forgotten. >> >> Some of those tags, like swimming need improvement which is independent from >> this proposal. >> >> water_characteristic is intended to be reusable for natural=spring and all >> waterways and other water bodies. >> >> > Many Japanese rural "tourism=hotel" has Onsen amenity. >> > >> > # Some Japanese mappers use "amenity=public_bath" to represent "Sento". >> > # "Sento" is like a spa, but more daily used amenity. >> > # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sent%C5%8D >> > >> > In my opinion, to represent a "Onsen Hotel", >> > e.g. >> > "tourism=hotel" >> > "amenity=public_bath" >> > "leisure=onsen" >> > >> > or some combination. (yes, this is very draft!) >> >> natural=hot_spring is for springs of natural origin. A leisure=onsen is >> orthogonal to this so those could be easily combined if the onsen is from >> a natural source. Otherwise you would have just leisure=onsen. >> >> Richard >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >> >> -- >> Satoshi IIDA >> mail: nyamp...@gmail.com >> twitter: @nyampire >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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