The exact route across the lake probably isn't a big deal for a canoe, but for 
any watercraft requiring deeper water and/or moving at greater than 
hand-paddled speed, it helps to know where the recommended channel is located.


On March 25, 2014 12:39:21 AM CDT, Yves <yve...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dave, you can connect with a straight way across the lake with no tag,
> but part of the relation.
> Yves
> 
> On 25 mars 2014 01:39:33 UTC+01:00, Dave Swarthout
> <daveswarth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >There is a definite need for a way to indicate a route that crosses
> an
> >open
> >body of water like a lake. I came across this issue when mapping a
> >"canoe
> >route" in Alaska recently. For such a route there are portions that
> are
> >footways, places where one carries the canoe from one lake to
> another,
> >these are called portages, and portions that go across the lake.
> >Currently
> >there is no way to tag the waterway portions but one can create a
> >relation
> >to handle them as part of a route.
> >
> >The route is the Swan Lake Canoe Trails:
> >http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/60.6847/-150.6384
> >
> >In the area shown the footway portions are clearly visible but the
> >water
> >portion, which divides in Spruce Lake, is not visible. I did not tag
> >those
> >waterway sections because I could not figure out how to do it short
> of
> >creating artificial "streams" through the lakes.
> >
> >Clearly, something needs to be done about this. Also, I am unable to
> >search
> >for this route in OSM. I'm not sure why that is but it's annoying.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:12 AM, fly <lowfligh...@googlemail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On 24.03.2014 22:11, Janko Mihelić wrote:
> >> > 2014-03-24 16:41 GMT+01:00 fly <lowfligh...@googlemail.com
> >> > <mailto:lowfligh...@googlemail.com>>:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >     I would use a type=waterway relation for the canal.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Seems good to me.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >     Yes, it won't but for proper routing you need to know the
> >waterway
> >> signs
> >> >     and buoys.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > But even with waterway signs and buoys you need routes. You can't
> >tag
> >> > maxdrought=* on a buoy.
> >>
> >> maxdraught is very special for waterways if not only for canals. In
> >> general maxheight, -width and waterdepth are the important factors.
> >>
> >> Right now your route (waterway) is quite long and some parts do not
> >have
> >> the restrictions at all. That is why I prefer it on the ways.
> >>
> >>
> >> cu fly
> >>
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