Am 31.07.2014 15:47, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
> 
> 2014-07-31 15:27 GMT+02:00 fly <lowfligh...@googlemail.com
> <mailto:lowfligh...@googlemail.com>>:
> 
>     > I use them like this
>     >
>     > amenity=cafe cuisine=ice_cream
>     > there is a waiter / service
>     >
>     > amenity=ice_cream
>     > they sell take away ice cream, but also have at least some tables
>     to sit down (no service)
> 
>     Do you make any differences on bars in Italy, too ? I mean the one with
>     only a barkeeper and the other with service ?
> 
> 
> 
> bars are another topic ;-)
> A bar can be almost everything, some are offering long lists of cooked
> stuff for lunch (1st and second course, dessert), others only offer some
> sandwich or even only fried potatoe chips and peanuts. The only thing
> you can be quite sure is that they all offer croissant for breakfast,
> and espresso / capuccino / caffè latte, soft drinks and alcoholics. Some
> also sell lottery tickets, stamps, public transport tickets and tobacco
> (and allow you to pay your "home bills" like electricity and water).
> They hardly ever sell newspapers, and the newsagents won't typically
> sell lottery tickets, stamps, public transport tickets or tobacco.
> The main difference between a restaurant and a bar is that in the bar
> you'll pay typically in advance (for whatever), while there might be
> service to bring your food (especially if you have to wait). Also
> restaurants won't offer any of the additional services described above
> (tickets etc.).
> 
> Actually I have never tagged amenity=cafe, cuisine=ice_cream in Italy
> (but in Germany I did), because the typology here is different.
> (traditional, artisanal) ice cream is seen as a subproduct of pastry
> (pasticceria, de:Konditorei) and being relatively cheap (you can get a
> nice serving for 1,50EUR) people eat it a lot on the go (after
> lunch/dinner), while in Germany it is mostly seen as something either
> industrial or Italian (i.e. country specific specialty) ;-)

I know Italy quite well, that is why I did ask about bars.

Living in an area of Germany with some Italian life-style I find all the
different ice-cream selling amenities like in Italy, and you are wrong
in your view about Germany. It used to be also an additional product of
pasticcerie here, too. At least, that is what my grandmother, daughter
of a baker/pastreur.

I prefer to have some extra tags than four or five different variants to
tag the same feature with little nuances in meaning.

cu fly


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