For what it's worth, in the United States the terms bar, tavern, lounge, and pub are used almost interchangeably. Some imply table service and general food more than others, but there is no hard rule, and the situation is further complicated by, for example, "bar and grill" having a much different implication than just "bar" in that regard, and even "brewpub" vs "pub". I suspect that this is going to vary far too much by culture to get acceptable results out of simply tagging as "bar" vs "pub" or whatever might be proposed.
The Italian bar sounds far more like a corner store to me! --- Jesse B. Crawford Student, Information Technology New Mexico Inst. of Mining & Tech https://jbcrawford.us || je...@jbcrawford.us https://cs.nmt.edu/~jcrawford || jcrawf...@cs.nmt.edu On 2014-07-31 07:47 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2014-07-31 15:27 GMT+02:00 fly <lowfligh...@googlemail.com>: > >>> I use them like this >>> >>> amenity=cafe cuisine=ice_cream >>> there is a waiter / service >>> >>> amenity=ice_cream >>> they sell take away ice cream, but also have at least some tables to sit >>> down (no service) >> >> Do you make any differences on bars in Italy, too ? I mean the one with >> only a barkeeper and the other with service ? > > bars are another topic ;-) > A bar can be almost everything, some are offering long lists of cooked stuff > for lunch (1st and second course, dessert), others only offer some sandwich > or even only fried potatoe chips and peanuts. The only thing you can be quite > sure is that they all offer croissant for breakfast, and espresso / capuccino > / caffè latte, soft drinks and alcoholics. Some also sell lottery tickets, > stamps, public transport tickets and tobacco (and allow you to pay your "home > bills" like electricity and water). They hardly ever sell newspapers, and the > newsagents won't typically sell lottery tickets, stamps, public transport > tickets or tobacco. > The main difference between a restaurant and a bar is that in the bar you'll > pay typically in advance (for whatever), while there might be service to > bring your food (especially if you have to wait). Also restaurants won't > offer any of the additional services described above (tickets etc.). > > Actually I have never tagged amenity=cafe, cuisine=ice_cream in Italy (but in > Germany I did), because the typology here is different. (traditional, > artisanal) ice cream is seen as a subproduct of pastry (pasticceria, > de:Konditorei) and being relatively cheap (you can get a nice serving for > 1,50EUR) people eat it a lot on the go (after lunch/dinner), while in Germany > it is mostly seen as something either industrial or Italian (i.e. country > specific specialty) ;-) > > cheers, > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging [1] Links: ------ [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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