Excellent job. Thanks for all your hard work. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:10 PM, John Willis <jo...@mac.com> wrote:
> I added two sections to the wiki - Purpose and limitations to try to spell > out what we talked about. > > I also wrote that POW on an area as a landuse for most uses will be > superseded by landuse=religious, and the POW tag is very important as a tag > for a building or physical object that resides inside the larger landuse. > > I gave an example as to why that is the case. > > Please let me know if that clarifies the landuse sufficiently. > > PS I want to use the same exact line of reasoning For landuse=civic > (civic_admin, civic_service). > > Javbw > > On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:51 AM, John Willis <jo...@mac.com> wrote: > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 17, 2015, at 1:50 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > 2015-02-16 14:20 GMT+01:00 John Willis <jo...@mac.com>: > >> So far I have not experienced a problem with adding "religion" and >> "denomination" tags to features operated by a religious community and have >> continued to use the same landuse I'd use otherwise on the same kind of >> feature (if any). What would I gain by adding "landuse=religious"? >> >> >> To map the _grounds_ of religious facilities where the predominant use is >> worship, and support facilities for the meeting and rituals and various >> things happen. >> > > > OK, I think I finally understood the definition, and I agree that > landuse=religious is a fine tag for these (e.g. including the parking of > the church). IMHO the wiki page > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dreligious should be > corrected to be as explicit as you have been here today. > > > I'll try to update the wiki today (though I wasn't involved with this > page's creation) and I'll ask for feedback here when I am done. > > > The words "ground of religious facilities" and "predominant use of > worship" are crucial here IMHO --- for instance a place where the politics > or administration of a church are managed won't qualify under this > definition (but should be tagged as commercial I guess, right? We could > still add a religion tag there). > > Still there will be some strangeness in some cases, as we already have > established landuse=cemetery, which might also qualify in some cases for > landuse=religious. > > > Although the churches in California I know of do not have a cemetery on > the grounds, every single temple here in Japan does - even the ones in > Tokyo, so finding a very old cemetery hemmed in by a 25 story building, a > train line, a river, and residential housing (and still on the temple > grounds) is common. > > There are stand-alone cemeteries as well, and most neighborhoods have > little tiny 5x5m or so somewhat private cemeteries everywhere (every 2-300m > or so) over all of Japan, so I am not saying they are all > landuse=religious, but some larger ones on the temple grounds certainly > are, and it is an "amenity" of the temple - it's a big deal/expense to have > a family grave on the temple grounds. > > Can you have nested landuses? It is clearly part of the temple grounds, > and clearly a cemetery. I would tag it that way, but I don't know if I'm > breaking done rule by doing that. > > Javbw > > > > > > cheers, > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > -- Dave Swarthout Homer, Alaska Chiang Mai, Thailand Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
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