"On 25 May 2015 at 22:18, moltonel 3x Combo <molto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How do you link to a wikidata label in an OSM tag ? One that never > suffers from renaming ? As far as I know, we can/should only use > wikidata ids, which are stable but not user friendly. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata >>> * For data consumers wanting to show the wikipedia article (by far the >>> most common usecase), using the wikipedia tag is much more >>> straightforward than using the wikidata tag >> >> Except when the Wikipedia article has been moved and the old name reused. > > I had also mentioned rename issues. Why leave that sentense out of the > quote and then restate it ? You wrote "using the wikipedia tag is much more straightforward than using the wikidata tag (leaving the language and renames issues to more meticulous data consumers)"; my point apllies to all reusesrs, bnit just the "more meticulous". > Of course ignoring renames and not taking advantage of the API to find > the translated article is a bad thing, and no consumers should do > that... But in the real world, most consumers will use the wikipedia > tag instead. Because it's obvious, and because a simple regexp-replace > will give you the url to forward the user to, instead of having to > query so wikidata REST api. And when those consumers eventually > encounter an OSM object that has a wikipedia tag but not wikidata, > they'll display nothing. > > Which is why we should keep wikipedia tags (along with the > human-friendly IDs). But as already shown, Wikipedia tags have a higher-rate of link rot. > And when both wikipedia and wikidata tags are > present, we can QA that they are in sync (just like we currently QA > that website an wikipedia are not 404). Who will do that QA? > Speaking of stable ids, how does wikidata handle renames, Links from the Wikidata item are updated. > merges and splits on the wikipedia side ? New bridging items are created. > Even in the best-case scenario, it > seems that an OSM wikidata tag can drift off-target following > reorganisations that are correct from a wikimedia POV but not from an > OSM POV. Example? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging