On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:38 PM, John Willis <jo...@mac.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 9, 2015, at 9:25 PM, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: > > > > P brands (Arco, Amoco, BP, Aral, am/pm, Wild Bean) usually make you go > inside anyway and don't let you pay at the pump. > > A long time ago the self pumps were crap - but i have never seen pufdles > of fuel anywhere. > > Now basically 95% of pumps in California are self, open 24/7, and pay at > the pump with a card reader or RFID token. At night there no attendants at > many places. Everyone is very comfortable putting gas in the car, and with > a vapor recovery system mandatory (on gasoline cars) not even the fumes > escape when fueling, let alone liquid. > > They are pretty damn clean. > > In Japan, Self is very popular, and similarly very clean - though as a > californian, the lack of vapor recovery means filling up the tank causes it > to shoot sninky vapor out around the nozzle - so they have plastic gloves > and a little towel for you there - rather than making the cars have a vapor > recovery system. > > Maybe in places where self is second rate, people have trouble or cause > spills, but i think most Californians could be considered "gas station > attendants" >
Selective blindness? California's not exactly been an exception when I've been there.
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