Hi Hans, Yes, I think I need help, not only from you: I've commented many of the changesets which introduced new highway=* tags on ways which are rarely used.
I learned that many of them were typos, often highway=* should be historic=* or railway=* or waterway=*. I think I can manage to cleanup those. If we decide to change those with tags values like pre_proposed, paper, design,not_yet_bla_bla to a note describing the reason why the way doesn't yet deserve a highway=proposed tag it would be great if the mappers would do that. I think the best way to do that without being to rude is to change the highway tag to a note AND add a specific comment to the corresponding changeset which introduced the tag, something like "please review way 1234567, I've changed the rarely used tag highway=xyz to a note. See also <link to this discussion>. I did that a few times now without any complains from the mappers, so I hope that's okay. Gerd Hans De Kryger wrote > Let me know if you need any help. > > *Regards,* > > *Hans* > > *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 > <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13>* > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Gerd Petermann < > GPetermann_muenchen@ >> wrote: > >> Hi Hans, >> >> >> that was my thought as well. I assume I have to check all the suspicious >> entries that >> >> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/highway#values >> >> >> shows. The data is a bit out-aged now (2015-10-14 23:58 UTC) >> >> as I am constantly cleaning up but I think 842 different highway=* tags >> >> are far too many, both for consumers and for newbies. >> >> >> Gerd >> >> ------------------------------ >> *Von:* Hans De Kryger < > hans.dekryger13@ > > >> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 08:13 >> *An:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools >> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist? >> >> Thanks for the examples, i definitely disagree with both examples. Makes >> no sense to have those at all to me. In my opinion they need to be >> reverted/deleted. >> >> *Regards,* >> >> *Hans* >> >> *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> OpenStreetMap | >> TheDutchMan13 OpenStreetMap is the free wiki world map. ... "Changing the >> world one edit at a time" In love with OpenStreetMap! I mostly map within >> the borders of Arizona. Weitere Informationen... >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> * >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Gerd Petermann < >> > GPetermann_muenchen@ >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Oops, forgot to set the list on cc >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *Von:* Gerd Petermann >>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 07:21 >>> *An:* Hans De Kryger >>> *Betreff:* AW: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist? >>> >>> >>> Example: >>> >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5987185 >>> >>> which is just the first best from 130 "highway=unbuilt" ways, >>> >>> Its history shows that it was imported in 2007. >>> >>> >>> Just a few m south is another one: >>> >>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/199739291> >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/199739291 >>> >>> which doesn't have a long history but seems to be >>> >>> exactly like it. >>> >>> >>> Gerd >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *Von:* Hans De Kryger < > hans.dekryger13@ > > >>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 01:09 >>> *An:* OpenStreetMap >>> *Cc:* Gerd Petermann >>> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist? >>> >>> >>> Do you have any examples? >>> On Oct 15, 2015 12:27 PM, "Mateusz Konieczny" < > matkoniecz@ > > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:35:08 +0000 >>>> Gerd Petermann < > gpetermann_muenchen@ > > wrote: >>>> >>>> > Hi all, >>>> > >>>> > forgive me if this was discussed before: >>>> > There seems to be a need to map highways which do not exist. >>>> > I understand the idea that we map highway=proposed / highway=planned >>>> > as this might be used to visualize a plan, I can also understand that >>>> > we have tags like highway=dismantled and highway=razed (which seem to >>>> > mean the same) but why do we have ways with >>>> > highway=x-residential , highway=unbuilt , highway=neverbuilt, and >>>> > several more with similar meaning ? >>>> > They all seem to describe ways which where once added as normal >>>> > highway=* to the database and later someone found out that there is >>>> > no highway, but did not dare to remove the way. >>>> > >>>> > Is that meant to document something important? >>>> > >>>> > Gerd >>>> > >>>> >>>> Purpose of such objects is to ensure that armchair mappers will not >>>> remap it again. Object with note=* seem better than highway=neverbuilt. >>>> >>>> In case of low risk of remapping by armachair mappers such ways may be >>>> safely deleted. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tagging mailing list >>>> > Tagging@ >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> > Tagging@ >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> > Tagging@ >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@ > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/how-to-tag-a-highway-that-doesn-t-exist-tp5857111p5857819.html Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging