The example above i mentioned ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5987185/history) i'm guessing i shouldn't contact anyone since it was a tiger upload from 2007?
*Regards,* *Hans* *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13>* On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 2:02 AM, Hans De Kryger <hans.dekryge...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for getting back to me, if you have a list of them shoot it my way. > I'll start working on them. > > *Regards,* > > *Hans* > > *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 > <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13>* > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:55 AM, GerdP <gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Hans, >> >> I think that is part of the problem, you always have to decide if the >> way is of any use for others, else we could just use a mass edit. >> Each case needs review and thinking, that's why I am asking for help ;-) >> As long as you contact the original mapper I see no problem. >> >> Gerd >> >> >> Hans De Kryger wrote >> > Hey Gerd, >> > >> > Thanks for reaching out to me, i have to say I'm a little confused. The >> > ways you mentioned were a mistake and were suppose to be tagged >> > (historic,railway etc) i get. But like the example shown here (1) there >> > seems to be no plausible reason for it? It seems to me that any examples >> > which are similar to this need to be deleted. The original mapper can >> > always be contacted beforehand. >> > >> > (1) >> > >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?way=5987185#map=19/32.97970/-117.05502 >> > >> > *Regards,* >> > >> > *Hans* >> > >> > *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 >> > <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13>* >> > >> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:03 AM, GerdP < >> >> > gpetermann_muenchen@ >> >> > > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Hans, >> >> >> >> Yes, I think I need help, not only from you: >> >> I've commented many of the changesets which introduced >> >> new highway=* tags on ways which are rarely used. >> >> >> >> I learned that many of them were typos, often >> >> highway=* should be historic=* or railway=* or >> >> waterway=*. I think I can manage to cleanup those. >> >> >> >> If we decide to change those with tags values like pre_proposed, paper, >> >> design,not_yet_bla_bla to a note describing the reason why the >> >> way doesn't yet deserve a highway=proposed tag >> >> it would be great if the mappers would do that. >> >> >> >> I think the best way to do that without being to rude is to >> >> change the highway tag to a note AND add a specific comment >> >> to the corresponding changeset which introduced the tag, something >> >> like "please review way 1234567, I've changed the rarely used tag >> >> highway=xyz to a note. See also >> > <link to this discussion> >> > . >> >> >> >> I did that a few times now without any complains from the mappers, >> >> so I hope that's okay. >> >> >> >> Gerd >> >> >> >> Hans De Kryger wrote >> >> > Let me know if you need any help. >> >> > >> >> > *Regards,* >> >> > >> >> > *Hans* >> >> > >> >> > *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 >> >> > <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13>* >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Gerd Petermann < >> >> >> >> > GPetermann_muenchen@ >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Hi Hans, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> that was my thought as well. I assume I have to check all the >> >> suspicious >> >> >> entries that >> >> >> >> >> >> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/highway#values >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> shows. The data is a bit out-aged now (2015-10-14 23:58 UTC) >> >> >> >> >> >> as I am constantly cleaning up but I think 842 different highway=* >> >> tags >> >> >> >> >> >> are far too many, both for consumers and for newbies. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Gerd >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> *Von:* Hans De Kryger < >> >> >> >> > hans.dekryger13@ >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 08:13 >> >> >> *An:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools >> >> >> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't >> >> exist? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for the examples, i definitely disagree with both examples. >> >> Makes >> >> >> no sense to have those at all to me. In my opinion they need to be >> >> >> reverted/deleted. >> >> >> >> >> >> *Regards,* >> >> >> >> >> >> *Hans* >> >> >> >> >> >> *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 >> >> >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> >> >> >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> OpenStreetMap >> >> | >> >> >> TheDutchMan13 OpenStreetMap is the free wiki world map. ... >> "Changing >> >> the >> >> >> world one edit at a time" In love with OpenStreetMap! I mostly map >> >> within >> >> >> the borders of Arizona. Weitere Informationen... >> >> >> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13> * >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:24 PM, Gerd Petermann < >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > GPetermann_muenchen@ >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Oops, forgot to set the list on cc >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ------------------------------ >> >> >>> *Von:* Gerd Petermann >> >> >>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 07:21 >> >> >>> *An:* Hans De Kryger >> >> >>> *Betreff:* AW: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Example: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5987185 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> which is just the first best from 130 "highway=unbuilt" ways, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Its history shows that it was imported in 2007. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Just a few m south is another one: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/199739291> >> >> >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/199739291 >> >> >>> >> >> >>> which doesn't have a long history but seems to be >> >> >>> >> >> >>> exactly like it. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Gerd >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ------------------------------ >> >> >>> *Von:* Hans De Kryger < >> >> >> >> > hans.dekryger13@ >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 16. Oktober 2015 01:09 >> >> >>> *An:* OpenStreetMap >> >> >>> *Cc:* Gerd Petermann >> >> >>> *Betreff:* Re: [Tagging] how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Do you have any examples? >> >> >>> On Oct 15, 2015 12:27 PM, "Mateusz Konieczny" < >> >> >> >> > matkoniecz@ >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 13:35:08 +0000 >> >> >>>> Gerd Petermann < >> >> >> >> > gpetermann_muenchen@ >> >> >> >> > > wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> > Hi all, >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > forgive me if this was discussed before: >> >> >>>> > There seems to be a need to map highways which do not exist. >> >> >>>> > I understand the idea that we map highway=proposed / >> >> highway=planned >> >> >>>> > as this might be used to visualize a plan, I can also understand >> >> that >> >> >>>> > we have tags like highway=dismantled and highway=razed (which >> seem >> >> to >> >> >>>> > mean the same) but why do we have ways with >> >> >>>> > highway=x-residential , highway=unbuilt , highway=neverbuilt, >> and >> >> >>>> > several more with similar meaning ? >> >> >>>> > They all seem to describe ways which where once added as normal >> >> >>>> > highway=* to the database and later someone found out that there >> >> is >> >> >>>> > no highway, but did not dare to remove the way. >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > Is that meant to document something important? >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > Gerd >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Purpose of such objects is to ensure that armchair mappers will >> not >> >> >>>> remap it again. Object with note=* seem better than >> >> highway=neverbuilt. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> In case of low risk of remapping by armachair mappers such ways >> may >> >> be >> >> >>>> safely deleted. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>> Tagging mailing list >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > Tagging@ >> >> >> >> >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>> Tagging mailing list >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > Tagging@ >> >> >> >> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Tagging mailing list >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Tagging@ >> >> >> >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Tagging mailing list >> >> >> >> > Tagging@ >> >> >> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> View this message in context: >> >> >> http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/how-to-tag-a-highway-that-doesn-t-exist-tp5857111p5857819.html >> >> Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Tagging mailing list >> >> >> >> > Tagging@ >> >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Tagging mailing list >> >> > Tagging@ >> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/how-to-tag-a-highway-that-doesn-t-exist-tp5857111p5857821.html >> Sent from the Tagging mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > >
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