From above discussion it sounds like it should be ptv=designated not psv, but public bus access is PSV in the EN side of wiki; PTV is only in DE/NL wiki ?? Maybe a wiki problem there too.
On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Tijmen Stam <mailingli...@iivq.net> wrote: > But, your explanation if highway=unclassified needing to connect to at least > one tertiary makes the following case contradictionary: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/53672494 is now mistagged as residential. > It is a busway, sandwiched between two true residential roads. The only > non-service road type that would apply here is unclassified, yet it can't be > that one as being only connected to residentials :-) I see no problem with calling that bus-only shortcut a 'service' way. Getting too pedantic about literal definitions when we can't have every edge case covered in every language on the wiki is delightful but pointless pedantry. But since it's a through-route (albeit access=psv|bus|ptv whatever) i could accept 'unclassified' too. And that might not be an exception if we think logically ... If a bus-route runs through a residential neighborhood, the (otherwise obviously) residential streets it uses may be upgraded to unclassified or tertiary by being the through-route or primary ingress/egress of the neighborhood? (Is this mapping what is on the ground? yes. When driving around, seeing signage indicating a bus-route tells me this is a more major way, and likely connects to the rest of the world somehow. Even if the pavement isn't wider, it's been recognized as the preferred route. Likely has stop-sign/traffic-light preference due to higher volume too, if only because buses.) Conversely, if the busway is a segregated lane on a tertiary ( or secondary or unclassified) highway, isn't it the same highway=tertiary as the parent but with psv=designated and/or access=bus ? ( I guess that'd be merely lanes:psv if separated only by paint, but would be a separate way if separated by grass, curb/kerb, or taller (semi)permanent physical barrier e.g. our accursed Jersey Barrier ?) Re Access=no inadvertently excluding pedestrians : signage here is $300 fine for unauthorized vehicles OR pedestrians in dedicated busway. Prohibiting Jaywalking up the busway at a station is a safety matter, bus driver is NOT looking for you there. E.g this transit station interchange busway is correct http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8651057 access=no, highway=service, note=busway, oneway=yes, psv=designated ( since indeed it feeds a building / station and pedestrians are excluded ) (As rebuilt, the _other_ , southern / westbound busway there has been recently modified to allow pedestrian access on a sidewalk to the lower-level of the rebuilt station, so I may need to change that ... after a walkabout to double-check details ! ) -- Bill Ricker bill.n1...@gmail.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
