I imagine that - people that use landuse=grass, landuse=forest/wood, natural=scrub since it renders, would be willing to use landuse=[something appropriate], landcover=grass|trees|scrub|... if it would render
- people that use landcover=... (and don't care about empty spots on the map), would not mind if it rendered and might be persuaded to add a collective landuse=[something appropriate] if it adds a nice green default rendering - people that use landuse=village_green since it renders, would not object to using a correct landuse instead, if it has about the same nice green default rendering. - people that map it as leisure=garden could be persuaded to use a landuse type instead, if it has a nice default rendering and the extra to specify whats on it - I do not foresee much support for public:green=yes, it adds unnecessary complexity - man_made=*, I don't know. Everything in Nederland is man_made, and it doesn't apply to how the land is used or covered. Seems more appropriate for constructed objects, I don't see anyone replacing all motorway-lining fake-orchards with man_made=??? 2018-06-05 10:43 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com>: > From previous discussions on this topic I learned that there are > several groups with different ideas about the tagging (see the Dutch > forum, as well as in the archives of this mailing list, the help > website and the General-topic on the forum) > > The groups I see > > - people that use landuse=grass, landuse=forest/wood, natural=scrub > since it renders > - people that use landcover=... (and don't care about empty spots on the > map) > - people that use landuse=village_green since it renders > - people that map it as leisure=garden > - some Dutch people invented a new tag, something like "public:green=yes" > or so > - and in this thread I learned that some will use man_made=flowerbed > or man_made="something green". > > there are pro's and con's for all those approaches and I don't see the > community coming to consensus soon. It would make a nice topic for > workshop on SOTM :-) > > regards > > > m > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:02 AM, Peter Elderson <pelder...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > landuse=village_green is used a lot. That works fine for grass-covered > > areas, because it's rendered green, but it misinterprets the term > > village_green and we're still stuck with the scrub, forest, orchard and > > hedge type greenery areas. The wiki for village_green says: > > > > This tag is very often not used to map the distinctive part of a village > > centre as described above, but to map all kinds of mixed vegetation > (plants, > > bushes, flowers, small trees, grass), mostly in urban areas, very often > > maintained by the Municipality. See the photos on the talk page for this > > type of use. > > > > Such use of the tag is incorrect, and a better tagging for these > situations > > needs to be defined. > > > > > > I guess I am looking for a better definition which can be implemented > > without much hustle. > > > > E.g. replace landuse=village_green with landuse=decorative (defaut > > rendering=greenish) then add landcover=scrub|trees|bushes|sand|gravel as > > needed. > > > > If rendering of these landcover values could be foreseen in the near > future, > > retagging can be expected and a lot of fake orchards, mini-forests and > fak > > village_greens would disappear from Nederland. > > > > > > 2018-06-05 6:48 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@tutanota.com>: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> 4 Jun 2018, 23:50 by pelder...@gmail.com: > >> > >> > >> Problem is, landcover is not rendered. Nobody is going to retag for > >> notrendered. Probably never going to change. > >> > >> Using landcover (probably in addition to rendered tags) increases chance > >> that > >> it will be rendered by at least some. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tagging mailing list > >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Vr gr Peter Elderson > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Vr gr Peter Elderson
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