I think people use the ref tag because that makes sense. I'm not a
golfer but on allotments the whole site usually has a name and the
individual plots have a number (ref=*). The OSM Standard map can't show
everything. We used to have a map like that as a sort of 'debug' map for
mappers; it was useful but horrible to look at as everything was jammed
in and not one to share more widely. Abusing the name tag is a common
beginner's mistake, let's not encourage even more use of the name tag -
rather make or find a render that shows what you want for a particular
purpose.
If RichardF's push towards vector maps bears fruit, displaying specific
items for your own needs should become easier. If Richard succeeds, then
an OBE should follow his recent award! Well done Richard.
--
cheers
Chris Hill (chillly)
On 01/08/2018 23:49, Paul Allen wrote:
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:03 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick
<graemefi...@gmail.com <mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What's the green dot in the middle of the 13th fairway?
With some detective work, it turns out to be a tree.
What puzzles me about golf putting greens and allotment plots is this:
why did they choose to embed useful information
in a ref (which doesn't get rendered in OSM carto) instead of a name
(which is rendered)? Andy's style displays
refs; look at the same course in OSM and you have no way of telling
which green is which.
This is even more puzzling when I see that the guy who proposed the
allotment plot tag explicitly mentioned ref but,
in the proposal page his example leads to the only plot in the
allotment which has a name (and none of the plots have
refs). Yes, data protection means allotment plots usually should not
have a person's name but this was something like
the Fred Bloggs Memorial Allotment. But why hide allotment numbers in
references rather than displaying them as a
name where people can actually see the plot they're looking for.
"I've assigned you plot 12, here's a map of the
allotment that doesn't display the plot numbers, so you'll have to
guess where yours is."
What piece of OSM history that I know nothing of led people to decide
that it was sensible to encode useful
information that people would wish to see on a map in a way that
doesn't get displayed?
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