Would you be willing to revive the proposal and get it voted? Once it is approved we can make a real wiki page for landuse=civic_admin and ask JOSM / ID folks about including it in presets.
I agree that it is needed On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:59 AM John Willis <jo...@mac.com> wrote: > > > On Sep 20, 2018, at 9:40 AM, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > It’s not necessary to have a separate landuse area if the government > office is in a single building or shop. In that case the overarching > “landuse” is still retail or commercial. > > > Do they sell "legislation" at a town hall? Does the DMV "conduct > commerce"? Nope. Retail is always wrong. Commercial is a crutch. > > As for not needing an area polygon, I disagree. People mapping in a > detailed way will want a point, a building, and an area. There are areas > are available for many landuses, but not civic. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/36.31039/139.35191 > > Here is a convenience store I mapped. It is surrounded by fields, a > restaurant, Civic buildings and surge resivoir. > > It is a single building on a single landuse, similar to the restaurant, > the police station, fire station, and rice fields. > > Because it is a single use area - it doesn't need an area tag to encompass > it's parking lots? Fences? Driveways? I think it does. > > The same is true with any Civic building. > > Even a single shop or a single single city hall building can and > (eventually) should be mapped with such details, just as we would map > commercial, industrial, and retail buildings. Point - building - area. > Maybe the point is merged with the building or the area, but building *and* > area are necessary in all but the most urban of environments. > > This is why I proposed land use=Civic, later revised to > landuse=civic_admin. > > If a town hall or government office is a single building, you could just > map the building and drop a pin on it. > > But if you wanted to map the extent of the land, using commercial or > retail (imo) is *never* acceptable. It is not for commerce nor selling > goods. We don't use landuse=retail for a hospital or a park for similar > reasons. > > I wholeheartedly believe the decision to use commercial for Civic > buildings was wrong, and came from an adversity to making enough new > landuse values at the start. I want to correct that. > > I would like all landuse=Foo and building=foo to be similar, and be > obvious what to use with new mappers. Industrial buildings are mapped on an > industrial landuse. Building=Civic is mapped on... Commercial? Ugh. > > Landuse=civic_admin not only allows the proper mapping of stand-alone > offices, but is the *only* way to proper way to map Civic complexes of > multiple buildings with unique names. > > It is useful for both stand-alone buildings or multi-building complexes: > there are always parking lots, walkways, and other amenities that "belong" > to the point/building, yet are outside the building's footprint. An area > polygon is the only way to map them, and landuse=* is the most versitille > and consistent tag key to do it with. > > Javbw. > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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