On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 4:22 PM Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 4:11 PM Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, 24 May 2019 at 21:00, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@tutanota.com> > > wrote: > >> 24 May 2019, 21:52 by pla16...@gmail.com: > >> Have you ever seen a crossing with lights AND zebra stripes? > >> This is a very popular situation in Poland. > > I knew there'd be at least one. :) > > Common in the US as well. > > If you scroll south along Route 146/Balltown Road from > https://orthos.dhses.ny.gov/?Extent=-8225903.698222782,5284508.54974362,-8225376.103578491,5284728.604782014&Layers=2018_cache,2017_cache,2016_cache,2015_cache,2014_cache,2013_cache > you'll see a bunch of zebra-striped crossings. They all have traffic > lights with pedestrian-activated signals. > > At those, the pedestrian has the right of way but only when the lights > are in the pedestrian's favour. This is still significant, since a > right turn at a red signal is lawful here if it is safe to do so and > the right-turning vehicle has come to a complete stop.
Oops, hit 'send' prematurely. At https://orthos.dhses.ny.gov/?Extent=-8225929.286534256,5288785.407348416,-8225401.691889965,5289005.46238681&Layers=2018_cache,2017_cache,2016_cache,2015_cache,2014_cache,2013_cache, there are pedestrian- and cyclist-activated flashing amber lights and signs warning that the crossing is there. There is no other traffic signal, and motor traffic gives way to the foot and bicycle traffic. (Well, it's supposed to. With the local drivers....:shrug:) The zebra stripes are pretty much the same as at the other crossings. The low-traffic cycleway-unclassified intersection at https://orthos.dhses.ny.gov/?Extent=-8220641.091134535,5281227.32128579,-8220113.496490244,5281447.376324184&Layers=2018_cache,2017_cache,2016_cache,2015_cache,2014_cache,2013_cache is marked with signs but no pavement markings. I'm not sure I'm comfortable calling it 'unmarked' when there is the signage. The one at https://orthos.dhses.ny.gov/?Extent=-8214441.788886785,5278866.292470276,-8213914.194242493,5279086.347508671&Layers=2018_cache,2017_cache,2016_cache,2015_cache,2014_cache,2013_cache has both pavement markings and signs. I can't tell whether it never had zebra-stripes or whether they've just worn away. I suspect the former, since https://orthos.dhses.ny.gov/?Extent=-8214441.788886785,5278866.292470276,-8213914.194242493,5279086.347508671&Layers=2018_cache,2017_cache,2016_cache,2015_cache,2014_cache,2013_cache https://orthos.dhses.ny.gov/?Extent=-8210714.566462569,5279836.451841815,-8210186.971818278,5280056.50688021&Layers=2018_cache,2017_cache,2016_cache,2015_cache,2014_cache,2013_cache are also stripe-less. These, too, are very low traffic. Cars yield to pedestrians and cyclists at all of them. _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
