*I wish to amend the Wiki to explain that destination_sign relations can also be used for pedestrian and indoor routing, not just at "crossroads". Does that require opening a discussion in the discussion page, or may I just go ahead ?*
I think you're reading too much into the single word "crossroads" in the introduction. Perhaps the simplest solution is simply to add an explanation along these lines: "A crossroads for purposes of this tag is the intersection of two or more highways, including pedestrian ways, cycleways, etc." Although personally I think that's already implied. On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 10:20 AM Jez Nicholson <jez.nichol...@gmail.com> wrote: > FYI, Antoine is referring to > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:destination_sign and there > are 66,391 currently in OSM. > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 8:31 AM Antoine Riche via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> Hello. >> >> We are working with SNCF, the french railway company, to provide >> pedestrian navigation inside and around railway stations in the Greater >> Paris area. A dedicated routing engine, which provides indoor/outdoor >> navigation and supports area routing, has been developed – this will be >> presented during SOTM in Heidelberg. >> >> In order to improve the user experience, we want to provide walking >> instructions such as "take the exit 'Rue de Londres'" or "Walk through the >> gate labelled 'Northern lines'" rather than "Walk 75 metres then turn >> left". Our problem is that such waypoints may have a different name >> depending on the direction you cross them. The solution we used is to >> create, when there is such an ambiguity, two destination_sign relations >> pointing to the same 'intersection' member, one for each direction with the >> 'from' and 'to' members swapped. Here is an example at Juvisy station : the >> entrance named 'Accès Danton' when walking in ( >> https://www.osm.org/relation/9471596) is named 'Quartier Seine' when >> walking out (https://www.osm.org/relation/9471597). >> >> I wish to amend the Wiki to explain that destination_sign relations can >> also be used for pedestrian and indoor routing, not just at "crossroads". >> Does that require opening a discussion in the discussion page, or may I >> just go ahead ? >> >> Now since the routing engine supports area routing, we need to loosen >> some constraints on the members, that are documented on the wiki and >> enforced by the JOSM validator : >> 1/ allow areas for the 'from' and 'to' members, as in this example : >> https://www.osm.org/relation/9722912 >> 2/ allow multiple 'intersection' members, so that multiple doors can be >> referenced by a single relation – example in Gare Montparnasse : >> https://www.osm.org/relation/9823029 >> 3/ allow multiple 'to' members, so that the same relation can point to >> both a line and an area, and cover linear and area routing (no example but >> I could create one). >> >> Are there objections to this proposal ? Do you recommend to open this >> subject on the Discussion page or is it best discussing it on this list ? >> >> Regards, >> Antoine. >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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