On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 4:31 PM Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 22:10, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Meanwhile the osmcha example appears to be a 5 way roundabout-type
>> junction, but I don't have the clarity in that aerial view to tell if it's
>> traversable or not.
>>
>
> I went to the osmcha example and opened it in iD with Bing imagery.  It
> looks too large
> for a mini roundabout.  Three of the four roads have split lanes, which
> makes it
> incompatible with a mini roundabout.  And there are some Mapillary photo
> overlays which
> show the central island to be raised with a wall (tall kerb?) around the
> edge and some
> large bushes in the centre.
>

OK, I'm looking at it in these images now:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo&pKey=wnh2yPXi1HakCH5-dILZHw&lat=51.81508205831051&lng=8.849023785442114&z=17
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=photo&pKey=QPacIZqNSt0x4CasddMBKg&lat=51.81481744674556&lng=8.849143013905326&z=17

>From the ground, this is pretty unambiguously a mini roundabout to my eyes,
albeit a somewhat large one.  Just eyeballing it about the same size as the
ones they recently installed in the next town over from me:
https://www.newson6.com/story/40932988/walkability-project-starts-in-okmulgee
(relevant screen grab if that link doesn't work for you:
https://i.imgur.com/6aL1aZV.png, the plan shown says "Ø 16.00'", meaning
"diameter 16 feet" (~4.88m).  The important part is that the median is not
physical.
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