Thank you for pointing out the tag "drinking_water=yes/no" Looking at the wiki page for this tag and for the related tag amenity=drinking_water, it is strongly implied that this is for a drinking water supply which is self-service.
Examples include water taps, drinking fountains, wells, and springs. Features where this is commonly used include camping and wilderness accomodations. So it may be reasonable to have a different tag for the situation where the drinking water is only available by requesting it from the employees of a business. I note that "drinking_water:fee" is not mentioned at "Key:drinking_water" or "Tag:amenity=drinking_water" pages, and it has only been used 7 times. The only place that drinking_water:fee is mentioned is as an idea at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:free_refill - the "free_refill" proposal. So I think a new tag like "free_water=" is sensible, since "amenity=drinking_water" and "drinking_water=yes" have previously been assumed to be both free of charge and accessible to the public without needing to ask special permission. - Joseph Eisenberg On 1/16/20, Florimond Berthoux <florimond.berth...@gmail.com> wrote: > Because https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like > Tags are already defined and used. > free_water would be in conflict with tags fee and drinking_water. > free_water is two words with two concepts (price and service) > drinking_water:fee use the usual main:sub_propertie tagging pattern > > I have no opinion about container, but I can remember an old discussion > about tagging the property of street food shop where you are able to bring > you own "container" (food box). > In my pattern it would be drinking_water:container=* > > Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 à 22:09, European Water Project < > europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> a écrit : >>> >>> 5. Re: Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant >>> (Florimond Berthoux) >>> >>>> Hello Florimond, While I don't necessarily feel the solution you > propose is preferable, I do share your love of KISS though. >> >> >> I have tried to fairly incorporate the main feedback from the tagging > maillist discussion. >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water >> >> Why do you think your proposal is preferred to the one outlined in the > draft proposal ? >> free_water = <no, yes, customers> >> free_water:container =<bring_your_own,provided> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Stuart >> >> >> --------------------- >>> >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 20:25:53 +0100 >>> From: Florimond Berthoux <florimond.berth...@gmail.com> >>> To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" >>> <tagging@openstreetmap.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, >>> restaurant >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAELphJDBzQKbikjder= > nj7xbjp5htdah1zw9gfxhwh8c0jd...@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> Hi, I go quickly through the email thread and didn't saw the simple >>> solution: >>> >>> use drinking_water >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water >>> «drinking_water=* indicates whether a feature provides drinking water, >>> specifically whether water is drinkable for humans. » >>> So if a cafe provide the service of supplying drinking water, I would >>> use >>> the usual access values with this key >>> drinking_water=yes/no/private/... >>> >>> and use fee >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:fee >>> «The fee tag is for specifying whether a fee is usually charged for a >>> service, or for access. » >>> the service here is the drinking water so >>> drinking_water:fee=yes/no >>> And if more precision is needed use drinking_water:fee:conditional=* >>> >>> Of course most of the cafe give drinking water (though may be not >>> completely drinkable...) so drinking_water can be optional here. >>> >>> No new tag is needed here, KISS ;) >>> >>> Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 à 10:20, European Water Project < >>> europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> a écrit : >>> >>> > Dear All, >>> > >>> > I thought this subject could wait, but it is becoming pressing early > than >>> > I expected. >>> > >>> > As part of our project (and that of similar non-profits - most of >>> > which >>> > are not open data but nevertheless great organisations), we want to >>> > voluntarily encourage cafés, bars and restaurants to offer free tap > water >>> > bottle refill to anyone off the street. Refill has had significant > success >>> > in the UK and surprising the feedback is that the impact of increased >>> > customer traffic far outweighs any issue of cannibalization. >>> > >>> > If it is not already the case, could we develop a tagging standard for >>> > this case. Maybe "amenity = cafe & free_water = yes" >>> > >>> > It would be important to develop at the same time a distinct tag for >>> > another cause, which we support but will not be targeting is > restaurants >>> > which offer free tap water for paying customers. >>> > Maybe "amenity = restuarant & free_carafe = yes" >>> > >>> > Many thanks, >>> > >>> > Stuart >>> > >>> > PS : >>> > >>> > The European Water Project progressive web app powered by > OpenStreetMap, >>> > Wikidata and Wikimedia Commons data can be found : >>> > https://europeanwaterproject.org >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Florimond Berthoux >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > -- > Florimond Berthoux > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging