On 4/2/20 4:33 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote:
There is another aspect:
The wiki page highway=cycleway states also
" Tagging a way with highway
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=cycleway implies
that the route is designated for bicycles."
This means it implies, at least in Italy and Germany, that this is
equivalent to this sign, which in turn implies that, the use of this
way is mandatory for cyclists, if the cycleway accompanies a road.
Obviously this concept does not apply to a MTB-only paths.
I sympathise with the MTB fraction in OSM, but I strongly suggest that
MTB-only paths be tagged as highway=path plus suitable MTB tagging and
cycleways remain cycleways that are suitable for (nearly) all bicycles
(the "nearly" regards in particular wider bicycles).
No need for sympathy, I strongly agree with what you're saying. I think
it's unfortunate that we even have the cycleway and footway tags, but
they need to be treated as special cases of highway=path,
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 12:19, Volker Schmidt <vosc...@gmail.com
<mailto:vosc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
But highway=path is for unspecified, mixed use or generic
paths. A designated mountain bike track is not that, it's a
path specifically for bicycles.
If mountain bike tracks should be tagged as highway=path, then
the definition of path needs to be changed to not be an
unspecified or mixed use path.
No.
If the MTB path is not open to pedestrians, you add foot=no, and
possibly horse=no, in addition to your mtb:scale tags
Sure, you could say if you have a cycleway with
smoothness=horrible and tracktype=grade5 and foot=no and horse=no
you have the same thing, but ther,
Please keep paths that can only be used by MTB clearly
different from cycleways that can be used non-MTB bicycles.
I always assumed that's what the mtb:*=* tags were for, but
smoothness= is also suitable here since it even lists specific
types of bicycles which would be suitable
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness
Yes, the mtb: tags would in theory be able to convert als a
cycleway in an MTB track - see above, but it is much simpler to
keep the meaning that a cycleway is a cycleway and implies that
you can use it with a normal bicycle.
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