Another version of sort of a street-vendor that I was wondering about is mobile food vans.
They drive into a site (building site, warehouse complex etc) at morning tea time, blow their horn, stay for 15-20 minutes, then leave & come back at lunch time. Are they a street vendor? Thanks Graeme On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 05:57, Volker Schmidt <vosc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Just to make the list complete: > Around here (or at least in my city and nearby towns) we have regular open > air markets with assigned locations for specific stalls. > Do we already have a mapping approach to that type of stalls? (I couldn't > find one). > If we really don't have one already, it might be worth looking at how to > map stalls in general as I cudl see a lot of similarities. > I do part of my shopping in such markets, and I go to specific stalls for > specific goods. > > Il giorno lun 7 nov 2022 alle ore 17:03 Joseph Eisenberg < > joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > >> I disagree with classing if all “street vendors” and one feature. >> >> This proposal seems to assume conditions in contemporary Europe, where >> shops are usually located in permanent buildings due to climate conditions. >> >> In many subtropical and tropical regions the air temperature is never >> cold, so a fully enclosed permanent building with walls and heating is not >> very necessary. >> >> In this case many “street vendors” will have a tent and some storage >> which stays at a certain place, but is closed up at night. In that regards >> it is similar to a shop which is closed up with a metal gate at night, >> making it poorly visible except during opening hours. >> >> But consider shop=kiosk - in North America these are often small stands >> on a sidewalk of pedestrian street or mall, with one person wgo sells >> newspapers, snacks etc to pedestrians, functioning quite like a common kind >> of street vendor, except that they are in a tiny shed. Is it really better >> to have a totally different way of tagging a similar business which instead >> uses a mobile push-cart or a tricycle instead? >> >> In Southeast Asia, many of the businesses that Westerners might call >> street vendors sell newly cooked food, thus they are more like >> amenity=fast_food - and often an enclosed eatery will have only the kitchen >> indoors, with customers eating outside under a canopy. >> >> Even here in Oregon, in the United States, we have small restaurants >> which are ambiguous under this proposal: they are “food carts” because they >> are small kitchens in trailers with wheels, which can be moved by attaching >> them to a truck. But usually they are semi-permanently installed on rented >> private land, with the landowner providing hook-ups for electricity and >> water, and usually covered seating with a canopy and picnic tables. So >> while they look similar to at more mobile “food truck” (which has its own >> engine and drivers seat, and thus can be moved every day) they are more >> permanent. >> >> Rather than approving this proposal I would recommend more use of >> property tags. The existing street_vendor=yes tag is probably best, but >> building=no is also common (10k uses) and makes it clear that a feature is >> not a building. >> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/building=no >> >> - Joseph Eisenberg >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 9:31 PM map...@t-online.de <map...@t-online.de> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> >>> I propose to deprecate street_vendor=* and to tag mappable street >>> vendors with amenity=street_vendor + vending=* + opening_hours=* instead. >>> >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Street_vendors >>> >>> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> >>> Freetz >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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