I think this inconsistency is bad for OSM.
Many ways don't have names, even if they have routes along them. They
are just footpaths, & tracks etc.
This instance on giving them a name tag is fake. It'll mean sections
with one route will have their name tag rendered, but where additions
routes join there will be no rendering.
If multiple routes are of equal standing, but you insist on adding a
name tag to the way, how do you decide which takes precedent?
This thread reinforces my belief there's a lack of understand of route
relations' purpose.
DaveF
On 30/12/2022 19:15, Yves wrote:
Remove the name of the way, put a name on each relations. Except if it
makes sense to keep the name also on the way for whatever reason you
see fit.
Le 30 décembre 2022 18:06:12 GMT+01:00, Dave F via Tagging
<tagging@openstreetmap.org> a écrit :
What do you do if there are two routes?
DaveF
On 30/12/2022 02:19, brad wrote:
+1
If the only name is the route name I think it makes good sense to
put it on the local way too, that's the name of the trail.
Brad
On 12/29/22 08:59, Zeke Farwell wrote:
I've heard the assertion that a way has no name but the route
that passes over it does many times. While this is true in some
cases, in others it is not. Where the primary purpose of the way
is not for the route, this does make sense. For example
mentioned by Jmapb where the Appalachian trail follows an
unnamed driveway or sidewalk. In these cases, the primary
purpose is a driveway or sidewalk for local use, and the
Appalachian Trail just happens to follow it as well. Here
putting the name Appalachian Trail on the way makes no sense.
However, there are also dedicated sections of trail built first
and foremost to be a part of the Appalachian Trail and that have
no other name. Omitting the name Appalachian Trail in a case
like that makes no sense to me. That section of trail is indeed
called the Appalachian Trail. The whole route is also called
the Appalachian Trail and that's ok.
On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 10:38 AM Jmapb <jm...@gmx.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2022 10:13 AM, Zeke Farwell wrote:
Yes, the way name tag should be the most local trail name.
However, sometimes there is no local trail name and the
long distance route name is the only name. In this case
putting the long distance route name on the ways also makes
sense.
I've been doing some mapping on the Appalachian Trail lately
and this appears to be the common practice, although the AT
is dominant enough that constituent trails sometimes lose
their local names over time.
Some mappers will take it a little too far and tag sections
of sidewalk and driveway that the AT follows with
name=Appalachian Trail (or even name=Appalachian National
Scenic Trail... IMO this is an official_name, and probably
only belongs on the route superrelation.)
It's common to see ref=AT as well, which is fine on trails
(even locally named ones) and perhaps ok on the sidewalks,
but adding it to a vehicular road seems iffy.
Jason
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