On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 09:15:51 +1000 Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>When I created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcaravan, >I defined them as: > >"recreational vehicles such as towed caravans (a.k.a travel trailers, >pop-tops, camper trailers, tent trailers, 5th wheelers etc); powered, >self-propelled motorhomes (camper vans, expedition vehicles, truck >trailers / slide-ons etc); & similar types of vehicle. > >For ease, on this page they are all referred to as caravans", together >with example photos of them all. > >Maybe that should be copied across to >https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:caravan? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:caravan has another definion of caravans than https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:caravans Is it really necessary to two different tags for this? What would it mean if an object was tagged with tourism=campsite,caravans=yes,caravan=no? If we change the meaning in Key:caravan then how will we tag that e.g, motor homes is allowed on a highway, but camping trailers are not? There are thousands of campsite and caravan_sites tagged with caravans=no. If you drive in a motorhome, you would like to know if that means that you cannot stay there. >Thanks > >Graeme > > >On Thu, 19 Jan 2023 at 09:09, Niels Elgaard Larsen <elga...@agol.dk> >wrote: > >> In the wiki EN:Key:caravans can mean either a camping trailer >> or a motorhome. >> >> But in German, DE:Key:caravans only means a camping trailer (de: >> wohnwagen) >> >> The result is that there are 222 objects tagged with: >> >> tourism=caravan_site >> caravans=no >> >> >> Some even with: >> >> tourism=caravan_site >> capacity:caravans=48 >> caravans=no >> >> Some of them in other countries than Germany. >> I find this very confusing. >> >> Wikipedia agrees with the Germans on the caravans key. >> And on the wiki for Key:access, "caravan" is listen under >> Non-motorized vehicles. >> But then "tourism=caravan_site" makes little sense for motorhome >> sites (de: stellplatz). "motorhome_site" or "rv_site" would have >> been better. >> >> I guess it would work to tag motorhome stopovers, that does not >> accomodate trailers with: >> >> tourism=caravan_site >> caravans=no >> motorhome=yes >> >> Can we at least agree on whether caravans include motor_homes and >> make the English and German wiki agree on that? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging