On 29/04/2024 16:22, Jass Kurn wrote:
On Mon, 29 Apr 2024 at 10:03, Peter Neale via Tagging
<tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
It is "bicycles=yes" and not "bicycles=designated" because, for a
bridleway https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbridleway
"Cyclists also have a right, unless the local authority makes
orders to the contrary.... ...The local authority is not obliged
to ensure suitability for bicycles, unlike for foot or horse users."#
Disagree with that, I always map a Public Bridleway as
bicycle=designated. Cyclists have a statutory right to use these ways,
which should be meaning behind the designated. The fact there is no
requirement to maintain a Public Bridleway to a standard acceptable to
all cyclists, does not impact on the right to use the way. It's a
secondary matter that does not fall under "access". Or looking at this
in another way. The fact a Public Footpath does not have to meet
standards that would allow ALL pedestrians to use them, but does not
mean a public footpath should be tagged foot=yes
In terms of access rights*, I've always thought that (in England and
Wales**) "yes" and "designated" mean both "a legal right to access", as
opposed to "permissive" that means "you can go there, but that right can
be removed by the landowner whenever they wish". What would you say the
difference between "yes" and "designated" are?
Best Regards,
Andy
* ignoring the use of "designated" on "highway=path" etc. where it is
used to say that a path is really a footway or a cycleway.
** and also ignoring countries such as e.g. Scotland, Sweden, Finland et
al where you have a legal right of access on foot across most areas,
with some caveats.
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