> On Dec 3, 2025, at 12:00 PM, NoisyCoil via Tails-dev <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Note that for Apple Silicon we are maintaining the necessary bits as an 
> unofficial Debian port (the "Debian Bananas port") because the necessary 
> kernel bits are not fully upstreamed yet (i.e. support for Apple Silicon has 
> not landed in the Debian kernel yet). So while it is correct that you can 
> install Debian on Apple Silicon, official support from Tails would require 
> official support in Debian, which requires full upstreaming, which is not 
> there yet (people are working hard on this right now). But of course work can 
> be done in the meantime.

Yes, I know. That's an example of what I was alluding to when I said, "I have 
hopes that
over the next year some of the problems will be made easier, so making this a 
2027
goal seems longer-term than desired but it's probably the right call given 
limited resources."

In *both* cases there's some upstreaming that, if it occurred, would make 
things much easier.
As you noted, people are working hard on this right now. I think clearly 
announcing that as
a longer-term goal, and contacting some of the people involved, would increase 
the likelihood
of it happening. The likelihood would go even higher if some of the "long 
poles" were identified
and Tails spent a little time moving them forward. Fixing some problems 
earlier, in Debian,
could turn this from a hard task into relatively simple process.

--- David A. Wheeler
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