2009/12/9 Liz <ed...@billiau.net>: > On Wed, 9 Dec 2009, Sam Couter wrote: >> Ethanol is >> for drinking and swindling motorists and governments out of some cash so >> it should be noted for those of us who'd rather push the car than put E10 >> in it. > > I thought E10 was so I didn't have to pay a 30c per litre premium to put 95 > octane fuel in a car.
The problem with E10 for most cars is it doesn't recognise the extra oxygen atom so the car runs less effiecent by about 3% which is why it's 3% cheaper most of the time, however cars in the US can run up to E85 because the chip in the car can auto sense the extra oxygen and alter the the fuel/air mix. The other problem for older cars is the the fuel line may not be able to cope with the ethernol and can eat the rubber/plastic away, most/all modern cars don't suffer this problem. Of course by using ethernol you are burning food, luckily most of which is from sugar cane in Australia, which has about an 8x return of energy unlike the silly americans burning corn which doesn't even break even energy wise and it's driving up the cost of fertilisers etc and making food production more expensive and so the world goes on starving. Of course if they pumped the waste from coal fire power plants into green houses that have water tanks full of algea and then turn the algea into fuel you gat something like 40,000-80,000L of ethernol per acre, it gets rid of all the emissions in a safe manner and we don't need to import crude oil. But of course that would be too smart so we can't have that. _______________________________________________ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au