>> In my opinion OSM will never recover to the same point that it is at today
>> if data is removed for the simple reason that most, if not all government
>> data will need to be removed,
>
> Why would government data need to be removed?  Australian government
> geodata, for example, is definitely migrating to CC BY (no SA).  Last I
> looked this is compatible with CC BY-SA and (in spirit) ODbL.

I am not saying government geodata is not compatible with CC BY-SA, if
it was not it should not be there in the first place.  Being (in
spirit) compatible with ODbL is not the same as being compatible, and
it would need to be removed.


>> It is a bit like BSD and Linux.  Not many people are even aware that Apple
>> use BSD as their foundation, while Linux, Apple and anyone else can use any
>> part of BSD, BSD is by itself.  Linux started long after BSD, yet it is very
>> much stronger because of its license.
>
> This result won't necessarily translate to geodata.  Software is subject to
> patents, rightly or wrongly.  In contrast, the collection methods for
> geodata are pretty much all covered by "prior art".

Yes some software is subject to patents, but this is not the reason
people and companies chose this license.  They chose this license so
that no one else can take their work, and sell it as their own, and
then deny the original author access to improvements, which is very
relevant to this license discussion.


> Also, would you argue that Apple has a more polished product than anything
> in the Linux family?
I am not sure of your point here, and even less sure that it has
anything to do with OSM.
Apple has it's strong points, as does Linux, depending on what you are
looking for in an operating system.

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