The usage of Saint “Name” is wrong in the English language and should not be 
used.

 

The only time you use that notation is when you write about the person 
specifically.

 

Also in French Saint “Name” is acceptable just to be confusing, but this about 
Australian names and they should all be English (Unlike Canada)

 

What we might have to consider is that in indexing you use Saint not St, do we 
need to have it explicitly in the tagging (ie alt_name) or is this the 
responsibility of the renderer to work out?

 

Michael

 

 

From: Nemanja Bračko <brack...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, 29 June 2018 5:02 PM
To: phi...@philipmallis.com
Cc: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Road name abbreviation exception?

 

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Hi!
The easiest way is to add alt_name with abbreviation. Also if community agrees, 
it is possible to put abbreviation in the name tag (because of rendering name 
on the map), but use "Saint" as alt_name.

 

Best Regrads,

Nemanja

 

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 5:18 AM Philip Mallis <phi...@philipmallis.com 
<mailto:phi...@philipmallis.com> > wrote:

It depends on the context. St Kilda in Melbourne is another example where that 
is used instead of 'Saint'.

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On 29 Jun 2018, at 10:28, cleary <o...@97k.com <mailto:o...@97k.com> > wrote:

In New South Wales, the Geographic Names Board register shows the Sydney suburb 
Mount Druitt (no abbreviation) while the adjacent suburb is St Marys (always St 
and never Saint). The same applies to places named St Peters and St Leonards. 
Using the word "Saint" would not accord with the places' official names. 

 

I understand there is a tendency to remove sectarian references so that "St" 
can be pronounced as the speaker wishes and is not necessarily "Saint".

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, at 5:21 AM, Nathan Ginther (Insight Global Inc) wrote:

Hello all, our team has come into an interesting situation regarding road name 
abbreviations, we know that as a policy we spell out any and all abbreviations 
on the OSM map, however it looks like we may have run into an exception in the 
use of “Saint vs St” 
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Invalid_Abbreviation_Expansion).  It looks 
like the use of “St” instead of spelling out “Saint” is accepted within the 
mapping community, and might be the proper English spelling, but we want to get 
the response from the community as what is the accepted/preferred use when 
naming roads specifically, should we be spelling out Saint, or using St?

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