Hi Andrew, I fully, whole heartedly agreed. Wiki is supposed so evolve. Gardening to fix little broken or spelling issues. Bigger changes are best outlined here on the list to capture common sentiment.
I must admit I often just look up things in the wiki, so for me it is mostly a reference and it takes more commitment to actually improve. To update e.g. tagging guideline aspects one would first need to step back, which is what you seem to have done. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. On 21 September 2019 10:45:44 am AEST, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: >I completely agree the "how to map" of OpenStreetMap (not just tags, >but >also things like when to split a highway, when to snap nodes, what >should >be mapped etc) is full of "inconsistencies, idiosyncrasies and >vagueness". >But when I look at where OSM is today I think we've done a pretty >amazing >job all things considered, yes we still have much more work to do, but >being a mostly volunteer self organising community the best way to make >OSM >stronger is hands on driving this change. > >I think the easiest way to get started is improving documentation on >the >wiki, documenting all the different "how to map" concepts used today, >documenting these "inconsistencies, idiosyncrasies and vagueness", then >as >a community we can refine approaches to eventually resolve these >issues. >There's a lot of precedent in OSM for deprecating things when we have >better/more commonly used. > >Any time you encounter an inconsistencies I'd encourage you to raise >it, >either on the globally tagging list, or if it's local here on talk-au. > >On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 09:57, Herbert.Remi via Talk-au < >talk-au@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> A special thank you for the links yesterday. I have read them. >"Australian >> Tagging Guidelines" and "Good practice" are worth knowing and I am >very >> grateful for our forefathers that put so much effort into writing >these >> documents. It worth noting, however, when you compared the two that >they >> are riddled with inconsistencies, idiosyncrasies and vagueness. It is >worth >> remembering this when we experience another of those "I am right, you >are >> wrong" conversations. >> Reading "Australian Tagging Guidelines," I thought of Geffory Rush >from >> Pirates of the Carribean, "they are more guidelines than rules." >Unapproved >> tracktypes for 4WD (inventing tags, don't exist but perhaps they >should) >> and small towns called cities so they appear the map (mapping for the >> renderer), and the principle of "we map what is there" but then don't >map >> what is private (often difficult to verify too). The descriptions are >full >> of contradictions and vagueness. The "Lifecycle prefix" wikitext >needs more >> work, particularly examples of use to get consistency in its >application. >> As much of it is not rendered (Mapnik), mapping it could be >considered as a >> low priority. >> Harry Wood's blog "community smoothness" addresses vagueness in >language >> and how everybody has a different opinion of what a text means. That >is not >> new of course and with certainty, everybody has an opinion about what >the >> right way is. It is human nature, when it comes to our own beliefs, >every >> evidence supporting it is embraced and every evidence against >excluded. >> Finally, it is easy to forget that the Wiki is written in dozens of >> different languages and there will be inconsistencies between Wiki >entries >> in different languages. I can verify that for two. English and German >wiki >> pages descriptions are not surprisingly culture-specific (see also >the >> chemist/pharmacy/drug store discussion for AU/UK/US comparison). >> Despite our best efforts inconsistencies, idiosyncrasies and >vagueness >> will reign in the OSM anarchy. >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-au mailing list >> Talk-au@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au >>
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