Hi, just thought I would mention if you get the waiver that you could use 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GO-Sync to manage in the conflation. I am 
one of the developers and plan on doing a lot of work on it over the summer. If 
you need help, send me an email.

Thanks
Reuben

On 14/9/19 10:01 pm, Aaron Fang Shenhao wrote:
Thank you both for the helpful info!

I'll get onto sending the waiver letter to PTV. Once it comes back I'll make 
sure to update the wiki and report back.

I've summarised the number of stops and routes in the dataset for anyone who is 
interested.
   Transport Medium   ??? No. stops   No. routes
  
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
   Metropolitan Train ??? 222         99
   Metropolitan Tram  ??? 1673        73
   Metropolitan Bus   ??? 18241       354
   Regional Train     ??? 110         206
   Regional Bus       ??? 6644        356
   Regional Coach     ??? 859         658
   Night Bus          ??? 452         22
   TeleBus            ??? 100         8
   Interstate         ??? 11          11
   SkyBus             ??? 5           2

For completeness, here's the summary from OSM using the tags railway=station, 
railway=tram_stop and highway=bus_stop inside the area ISO3166-2=AU-VIC.

   Transport Medium ??? No. stops   No. routes
  
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
   Train            ??? 442         38
   Tram             ??? 1570        91
   Bus              ??? 4793        716

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 6:15 PM Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com 
<mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    On Fri, 13 Sep 2019 at 23:29, Aaron Fang Shenhao <aaronshenhao2...@gmail.com 
<mailto:aaronshenhao2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Hi everyone,

        This is my first time using the mailing list.


    Welcome!

        I???ve noticed that PTV???s (Public Transport Victoria) datasets 
(https://www.ptv.vic.gov.au/footer/data-and-reporting/datasets/) all fall under 
Creative Commons International 4.0, which requires explicit permission to be 
used according to OSM???s blog. I???ve looked at the wiki and can???t find any 
of these specific datasets in the list approved for use.


    Graeme pointed to the catalogue on the wiki of waiver status. I missed PTV 
when doing the initial round, so feel free to add this to the wiki 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue.

        Has anyone asked for permission to use these datasets before? I 
downloaded the GTFS dataset for a programming project, and it seems amazing: we 
could add all the stops and connect all the routes for all modes of transport 
in VIC just from this dataset?


    I haven't approached PTV about this, and since it's not listed on the wiki, 
I'd say go ahead and put together the waiver letter and send it off. The 
metadata records have a contact email you can use. If you do send off a waiver 
request please update the status and date you sent it to the wiki 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue, this really 
helps the rest of the community see what's going on.

    There'd still be a fair bit of manual work involved in an import to avoid 
duplicates and to integrate with what's already in OSM, but with a solid plan 
and engaging with this mailing list and local mappers with the plan and 
execution, an import could be a good thing to do.

    On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 12:33, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com 
<mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        I see there is reference??to 
https://www2.delwp.vic.gov.au/maps/spatial-data/victorian-spatial-data#Vicmap_Transport-11??being
 OK but that doesn't appear to be the same thing?


    Unfortunately not, VicMap Transport only has airports, roads and railway 
lines. The PTV data has bus stops and a few other datasets.


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