>Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2020 19:23:21 +1000 >From: "Sebastian S." <mapp...@consebt.de> >Subject: Re: [talk-au] Contributions to Road Geometry in Perth, > Australia >Hi, >I have made excessive use of the node tag for islands. >Particularly for pedestrian crossing. > >Splitting the road into two separate ways for only a few metres seems >excessive to me. Even when there is a several Meter long raised kerb >separating the lanes I would not >split the road.
Could you please elaborate on this method you have been using ? Ian On 1 September 2020 10:05:42 pm AEST, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote: >Heads up, looks like their team has started to map in Perth, see on >OSMCha >-> https://osmcha.org/?aoi=80b50a6d-6bb5-48cb-8ac4-4b2ddd9d5d76 > >Mostly looks okay to me, and mostly minor tweaks, though I raised a few >questions and issues on changeset comments but also listed most of them >here: > >https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/840589945/history was added but the >existing road name and other applicable attributes were not applied. >This >same issue happens in quite a few other places too so appears to be >systemic. I've raised some changeset comments but worth including this >as part of the standard practice by your editing team. > >https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/842851495/history is that a >roundabout? I can't tell from the Maxar imagery, yet that is the >claimed source, how could you tell from the imagery what this is? > >I personally find splitting ways for a traffic island at roundabouts >like in https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/840189281/history a tad to >excessive (would prefer to just tag the node as traffic island and use >one way, gives a much cleaner dataset as the transition between dual >and single carriageways is always messy) but I guess it's not wrong and >both styles are popular in OSM currently. Does the community have a >view on this? > >Unclear source of the turn restriction in >https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/90223764#map=18/-32.04553/115.8 >0953 > >On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 21:28, OSM NextBillion. AI <o...@nextbillion.ai> >wrote: > >> Thank you cleary for valuable insights, we would be more cautious >while >> mapping in such areas. While Satellite Imagery is our prime resource, >we’d >> consider mapillary photos as well wherever available. We do have some >> expert assistance in our team for interpreting satellite imagery and >map >> something only if we’re double sure of it’s existence. We will refer >to >> mappers history before editing existing data to understand if it was >> created using local expertise and would change only if there is >conclusive >> evidence from satellite and mapillary imageries. >> >> We will reach out to local mapping experts through forum and/or >changeset >> comments if we require further help. >> >> Thank you all once again for the suggestions, we look forward to >working >> with you all. :) >> >> >> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 at 05:35, cleary <o...@97k.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Thanks for the interest in mapping in Australia and thanks for >posting >>> your plans on this list. >>> >>> I would add to the caution expressed by others. I live in an urban >>> location in Australia but I have travelled in other areas within >>> Australia. It has taken me quite some time to learn to interpret >satellite >>> imagery and I still have a lot to learn about this country. After >>> personally visiting areas and noting what I see, and sometimes >taking >>> photographs, I then return home and compare my notes with what I see >in the >>> imagery and I am still surprised. I think it can be quite >precarious to >>> map features using just satellite imagery unless you have expert >assistance >>> in interpreting the imagery. For example, a common error by others >has >>> been to map lines of cleared vegetation as roads when they are >actually >>> fences. Even where an unmapped road exists, it is probably still >unmapped >>> because it is a private road and not accessible by the public - many >of the >>> roads on rural properties in Australia are private and, if added to >the >>> map, need to marked as such. Farmers get annoyed about intruders on >their >>> farms especially as biosecurity is a significant concern in parts of >>> Australia. >>> >>> So while I appreciate contributions to the map, I suggest that >"armchair" >>> mapping needs to be undertaken with a lot of caution. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020, at 2:17 AM, OSM NextBillion. AI wrote: >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > We’re a small team based out of Hyderabad, India. We would be >doing >>> > minimal edits in Perth and contribute to OSM in the next couple of >>> > weeks, in-line with OSM and Australia specific tagging guidelines >[Link >>> > ><https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines>]. >>> > >>> > >>> > Please refer our Wiki >>> > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NextBillion.AI-OSM> and >Github >>> > <https://github.com/NextBillionAI-OSM/OSM/issues/3> project pages >for >>> > more information. >>> > >>> > Looking forward to suggestions, if any ☺ >>> > >>> > Thanking you in advance, >>> > Team NextBillion >>> > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au