Hi Ian and Thorsten,

 

I was also thinking that there may be instances where the grade is not
signed but is known from things like brochures etc. This may well be
mainstream information from the operator but not located on site.

 

Cheers - Phil

 

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Subject: Re: [talk-au] Aust. Walking Track Grading System (AWTGS)

 

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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 10:26:38 +1100

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Subject: Re: [talk-au] Aust. Walking Track Grading System (AWTGS)

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>Hi Folks,

>Thanks for the great discussion on this issue. I have tried to summarise
the discussion and it seems like there is some consensus around the
following tagging

>hiking_scale:awtgs= as the general tag for the grade of the WHOLE track as
that is what is detailed in the AWTGS guidelines 

>and

>source:hiking_scale:awtgs= for the source of the data with values such as

>*           source:hiking_scale:awtgs=user  - Where a user has defined the
grading

>*           source:hiking_scale:awtgs=operator  - Where the grading has
been applied by the operator of the track (and the operator should also be
applied to the track)

>*           source:hiking_scale:awtgs=as_signed  - Where the data has come
from a sign located at the start of the track

>There has also been some discussion on sections of track being graded as
well. I think this needs further work as it doesn?t seem to match the
guidelines and may also depend on how operators have defined the tracks >ie
Is the Larapinta ?Track? all graded the same or are ?sections? rated
differently? I know in the case of Tasmania the Overland Track that PWS has
a single grading for the whole track but some other websites have >graded
each ?section/days travel?.

>There also needs to some further clarification if this goes on the ways or
relations in regards to longer defined tracks with relations.

>If we are close then I reckon an updated wiki with these values on both

>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australia/Walking_Tracks and

>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines#Bush_Walk
ing_and_Cycling_Tracks

>Cheers - Phil

 

That sounds great to me Phil (nearly ready for me to reapply my deleted
tags).  

However, I'm not sure I understand the difference between your suggested
sources "operator" and "as_signed".  I suggested "as-signed", but surely the
operator is the body that installs the signs - so wouldn't they normally
mean the same thing ?

regards

Ian

 

 

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