2013/3/13 Julien Fastré <jul...@fastre.info> > Hi ! > > I would like to discuss with the list some ideas I had for the OSM's > presentation of next Tuesday. > > I apologize for the lack of discussion and information about this > activity. Having a child, a pregnant wife, two professionnal activities > and volunteers engagements doesn't help. > > For this presentation, I would like to talk about subject I know better > than others. But I do not consider myself as a specialist for them. > Correct me if required ! > > This is the plan of my presentation. I am going to prepare an ODP this > week-end. > > The theme of the day is "Open Data: Mythe ou réalité ?" (Open Data, myth > or reality ?) The title of the presentation is "when open data helps > OSM, when OSM helps citizens and companies". It will be in French, a > language I practice with more ease than Dutch and English :-) > > Could you read the schema of the presentation and tell me what do you > think ? > I have also two questions: do you know how much contributors exist in > Belgium ? Or, for a more precise question: do you know how much > contributors made more than two or three edits in Belgium ? (I consider > that a contributors with only one or two edit is not a regular one...) >
Maybe ask Pascal Neis? He has some nice visualisations: http://neis-one.org/2012/11/active-users-osm-nov12/ > > This is the scheme of the presentation : > > 1. a short presentation of OSM > > 1.1 "OSM is the "wikipedia of the map". At first, it is a geographical > database. There are less restrictions in modifying the database (you > must have an account and an access to Internet). The data may be re-used > and modified as long as you attribute, share-alike and keep open the DB > (see http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/summary/)" > > 1.2 OSM is an ecosystem: the community developped a lot of tools for > improving the quality of the data: tools to enter data, quality tools > (Osmosis, osminspector, etc.), some tools to coordinate the action > (wiki, mailing-lists, etc.) > > 1.3 In Belgium, the sources of the data are Bing, gps track, and the > time and contributions of many volunteers. The coverage is quite good. > + Contacts with De Lijn, Agiv, ... But no real imports this far > > 1.4 Abroad, a lot of countries could improve the quality of the data > thanks to open geographical data. > > 2. I speak then about one experience in France: the cadastre (because it > is one I know the best; it may be not the more talkative: help me if > not...) > > 2.1 a little history > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Cadastre_Fran%C3%A7ais/Conditions_d%27utilisation#Petit_rappel_historique > > So, the cadastre give the authorization to be re-used in OSM, and opens > a WMS server... So people enjoy ! > > 2.2 some tools were developped for importing the data: a josm plugin, > etc. A coordination was made (a "source" tag, etc.) > > 2.3 There were some problems with the imports : some people imported > data upon existing data; etc. This was a tricky job. > > 2.4 It brings also good things to OSM: a better quality, new > contributors, a better visibility and, at least, an OSMFR association > was founded. > > 2.5 Open data brings more open data. in France, some cities open data > (Rennes, etc.) . A portal was opened, a licence was chosed, etc. > > 2.6 What can we retain ? > - the necessity of a comprehensible licence ; > - the use of standards format ease open data, the persistency of the > format too (I saw on a blog a post that a company had to re-develop a > script to exploit open data because updated data was published in a new > XML format) ; > - accessibility and low restriction ease too ; > > 3. When OSM profit to citizens > > 3.1 In Belgium, some companies use OSM data, but do not communicate > about that. We have heard about GeoDynamics, etc. Those companies does > not have a lot of contacts with OSM community. This could be good for > the community that they develop some strategy for Open Gis projects. > > 3.2 Abroad, some companies have developped a strategy to use open data: > cloudmade, maptools, etc. > > MapBox is really going fast now. > 3.3 In France, 3Liz and Geovelo sell products with opendata (I know > Geovelo the best, being a cyclist) > > 3.4 For citizens, there are a lot of uses: a lot of maps, etc. > > 3.5 Association may reuse open data. For instance, with the GRACq, we > are thinking about heat map to analyze the opportunity of creating new > bikelanes. > > > > So, what do you think ? > > Julien Fastré > > Good content. I like it. Sander
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