Yes, I'll look at those as well. Jo
On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 1:00 PM Yves bxl-forever <bxl-fore...@linuxmail.org> wrote: > Hello, > > Thanks for this. > > @Polyglot, I saw you updated numbered cycle routes (1 to 12). > The Brussels cycle route network also has 7 routes with letters. I > suppose we should apply the same change. > A small circle: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/237027 > B middle circle: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/116569 > C large circle: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7418111 > CC: Canal/Kanaal: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1119347 > SZ Senne/Zenne valley: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/116611 > MM Maalbeek valley: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/114235 > PP (King’s Palace): https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2133184 > > Cheers. > Yves > > > On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 10:40:29 +0200 > Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I had a look at them after downloading them using Overpass API and > started > > making them continuous where they were 'broken'. So I went ahead and also > > converted them all to rcn. > > > > Jo > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 9:41 AM Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Joost, > > > > > > In Flanders it depended more on topology than anything else. We used: > > > > > > lcn: for loops > > > rcn: for the numbered node networks, this logic was taken to rwn and > rhn > > > later on > > > ncn: for long routes going from A to B (LFx) and then later for the > Fxxx > > > cycle highways > > > icn: for European routes going from A to B > > > > > > In Brussels rcn doesn't seem to be used and those routes are > topologically > > > more similar to the numbered routes system used in Flanders and > Wallonia. > > > > > > I agree with you that it makes more sense to tag them as rcn. > > > > > > Jo > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 9:14 AM joost schouppe < > joost.schou...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> I was always a little confused that the regional cycle network is > mapped > > >> as lcn in Brussels. Since this network is organized by > Brussels-the-region, > > >> not Brussels-the-city, it seems logical that it should have the rcn > tag. In > > >> fact, more so than the Flemish cycle node network, which is composed > of > > >> several networks and almost by coincidence covers the region. > > >> > > >> This is also what we say in the wiki: > > >> > > >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Conventions/Cycle_Routes#Itin.C3.A9raires_Cyclables_R.C3.A9gionaux_-_Gewestelijke_Fietsroute > > >> > > >> But the example given there ( > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9623 > > >> I believe), is now mapped as an lcn. > > >> > > >> Looking at the edit history, it looks like there was a minor edit war > > >> about this, where user RoRay repeatedly changed it from rcn to lcn > > >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/8141976 > > >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/12902663 > > >> (RoRay is still mapping, still using the not-very helpful default > > >> changeset description "update") > > >> > > >> User BenoitL tried to change it back to rcn (with much better > changeset > > >> comments :) - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/12849599), but > I > > >> guess he gave up. Polyglot later seems to have mapped most of the > other > > >> routes; my guess is he just went with lcn because that's how the > others > > >> were mapped. > > >> > > >> Apart from the network not showing up when it should on some maps, it > > >> doesn't really matter much. However, bxl-forever is now mapping > -actual- > > >> lcn routes in the Brussels region, operated by Anderlecht > municipality. > > >> Example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/11544325 > > >> Putting both types of routes in the same level is just wrong IMHO. > > >> > > >> Can anyone provide some more context? Based on my own research, I'd > > >> suggest we simply retag all the regional operated routes from lcn to > rcn. > > >> > > >> Best, > > >> Joost Schouppe > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Talk-be mailing list > > >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >
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