Thanks Richard, 

I better understand the difference between the two licenses.


 
Pierre 



>________________________________
> De : Richard Weait <rich...@weait.com>
>À : Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> 
>Envoyé le : Samedi 2 février 2013 4h26
>Objet : Re: [Talk-ca] Gouvernement ouvert , Gatineau
> 
>
>I agree that advocacy with all levels of government is important.  They seem 
>in general to be interested, and to listen politely, but often to not 
>understand that creating a new license is poison to open data.  So it is 
>important to keep talking with them, more and more of them, until they 
>comprehend.  "Data law" is relatively new, in terms of law.  "Data law" is 
>applied unevenly by countries.  The very nature of data demands "mixing" with 
>other data sets.  This means that explicit and careful drafting of a license 
>is required so that it will work everywhere without accidentally 
>discriminating against a potential user.  
>
>
>
>I disagree that ODbL is the right license for municipalities or other 
>governments.  
>
>
>ODbL is absolutely the right license for OSMF and the OSM community. OSMF must 
>serve the OSM community of mappers, and the share alike provision is important 
>to a substantial portion of the mapping community.  ODbL deliberately 
>discriminates against those who would take ODbL data, improve it, and not 
>share the improvements.  That is an important and deliberate feature of the 
>ODbL license
>
>
>Governments must serve all of their citizens, even those who would not choose 
>to share.  The ODbL share alike provision is not suitable for government 
>publishers who mush serve both their sharing and non-sharing constituents.  I 
>recommend that governments publish their open data under ODC PDDL.  PDDL 
>allows use, not just in OSM, but in any open data project.  PDDL allows use, 
>not just in open data projects, but in closed commercial projects that chose 
>not to share at all.  PDDL allows use in all jurisdictions with established 
>data law, but also in jurisdictions where data law is not recognized and 
>copyright law is used to fill the gaps.  
>
>
>Governments must serve a broader audience than the OSMF must serve.  
>OpenDataCommons recognize that one Open Data license is not sufficient, and 
>have drafted a suite of licenses.  Their licenses are drafted to be 
>compatible, so that PDDL data can be included in ODbL data sets.
>
>
>
>Advocating that governments publish open data under PDDL _should_ be easier 
>than advocating for ODbL because publishing under PDDL is good for OSM, but 
>also good for any other potential use of the data.  So, those advocates should 
>be seen as not simply advocating something for the benefit of their own pet 
>project, OSM, but for the benefit of all potential open data users.  To 
>advocate that governments support only one specific open data project, even a 
>project as wonderful as OpenStreetMap, could be seen as mere self-interest, 
>rather than enlightened advocacy.  
>
>
>Best regards,
>Richard
>
>
>
>[1] ODC - OpenDataCommons.org - the same publisher of the ODbL license.  
>
>[2] PDDL - Public Domain Dedication and License
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