I suspect that Stats Canada has an official party line and Bjenk's email
shows all the signs of a press release.

I've met with some of the people involved and my impression is that some
managers find the idea that OpenStreetMap does not have a CEO who makes
decisions very difficult to accept.

However the impression I got is that for the pilot what they would like is
a few tags adding to existing buildings.  These would be things such as
postcode and the number of stories using tags that are already in wide use
within OSM.  Having said that different people within Stats Canada probably
have their own ideas and part of Bjenk's role will be to reconcile
everything together.

Cheerio John
On 18 Jul 2016 12:51 pm, "Pierre Béland" <pierz...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> Bonjour Bjenk
>
> Les contributeurs de certains pays ont des organisations plus structurées,
> ce qui n'est pas le cas au Canada.
>
> La coordination des contributeurs canadiens se fait via cette liste-ci
> (ie. discussion et coordonnation) et via divers groupes locaux tels Ottawa,
> Toronto, Montréal, Québec, etc.
>
> Le mieux est de présenter vos projets sur la liste et inviter les groupes
> intéressés à vous contacter.
>
> Les contributeurs s'intéressent à diverses problématiques et pourraient
> par exemple vous proposer d'intégrer des informations relatives aux types
> d'accès aux immeubles publics par les handicapés.
>
>
> Pierre
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *De :* john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
> *À :* "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca>
> *Cc :* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org>
> *Envoyé le :* lundi 18 juillet 2016 12h07
> *Objet :* Re: [Talk-ca] New project with OSM at Statistics Canada
>
> >Board of Directors
>
> I don't think there is such a thing on talk-ca.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 18 July 2016 at 11:27, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <
> bjenk.ellef...@canada.ca> wrote:
>
> Dear members of the Board of Directors,
>
> My name is Bjenk Ellefsen. I am working for the Data Exploration and
> Integration Lab at Statistics Canada.
>
> I am writing to inform you that earlier this month, Statistics Canada
> initiated a two-year pilot project aimed at understanding the potential of
> data crowdsourcing for statistical purposes.
>
> We are planning to use OpenStreetMap as a platform for inviting
> contributors to crowdsource information on non-residential buildings
> (footprints, addresses and simple building attributes). The pilot project
> will focus on the Ottawa-Gatineau region.
>
> We have assembled a multi-disciplinary project team, which includes people
> from five divisions of Statistics Canada and also from the municipalities
> of Ottawa and Gatineau.
>
> In November of last year, my chief, Alessandro Alasia, spoke with Paul
> Norman. At that time, we were exploring the idea of crowdsourcing. We have
> done quite a lot of background research and planning since then (although
> much learning remains to be done). The preliminary idea has evolved in a
> proof of concept proposal and, from there, into the current project.
>
> Earlier this month we held a first meeting/conference call with the local
> (Canada/Ottawa) OSM community. We hope to strengthen these ties further in
> the coming months by engaging the OSM community through Talk-ca.
>
> This pilot project is a major innovative undertaking for our Agency. There
> are a multitude of aspects that we need to assess and learn about
> (including the IT dimension, communications,  legal aspects, etc.).
>
> For this reason, there is also a lot of excitement about the project and
> much curiosity from senior management. We know that crowdsourcing is a
> reality but, as far as I know, there has been no other attempt to assess
> its potential from the perspective of a national statistical office.
>
> One of our Assistant Chief Statisticians, in particular, who is
> championing the innovation projects at Statistics Canada, has a keen
> interest in this project. At some point, we would like to have an
> “institutional” meeting between Statistics Canada and OSM (although I am
> not quite sure in which shape and form this can take place). I am open to
> your suggestions.
>
> I am copying my colleague Bjenk Ellefsen, who is part of our team and who
> will follow-up on most of the communication with the OSM community on
> Talk-Ca.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you and to engaging the OSM community on
> this project.
>
> I will soon write more about the project!
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD
>
> Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et
> l’intégration de données (LEID)
> Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les
> entreprises
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> (343) 998-3004
>
>
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