Hi John,

Thanks for the writeup. I think this is the first post that's made it
fully clear what is going on. As I was re-reading the previous StatCan
thread earlier today I seemed to be missing something - now I guess it
was context available to those who attended in-person meetings. I don't
think it was even clear to the list until now how much in-person
community discussion has been happening.

Basically the issue is that all the online discussion about this looks
to have been about the StatCan crowdsourcing half of the project and
none at all about the building import half. I didn't pay too much
attention to the original StatCan thread at the time because it so
clearly sounded like a local mapping project with no large-scale import
component.

Unfortunately I no longer live in Ottawa and couldn't have made it to
the meetings. However I lived there for many years, have done a lot of
mapping there, and have a continued interest in the area.  I would still
like to see the the building import happen and even help out where I
can. But I think it's important to do more planning and discussion on
this list and the imports list, and to  take things in smaller and more
manageable chunks.

I guess the next step would be to continue on a proper path to import
the buildings per the guidelines per
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines . This would
include:

- Wiki documentation of the where the data is, what it contains & its
  license / permissions
- A plan to conflate with existing data - preserving history, keeping
  existing attributes, and merging addresses onto buildings where
  possible before the data is uploaded
- A specific plan for uploading the data. Eg how the data will be
  divided up into chunks and step-by-step instructions for JOSM, etc. A
  task server was mentioned several times - who is running this and how
  can others participate?
- A proper review on the imports mailing list

I don't necessarily agree with every single rule in the import
guidelines, but they are what the community has decided on and I think
for the most part they help avoid the kinds of issues I had with deleted
and duplicated data in Ottawa.

--
  AJ Ashton
  a...@ajashton.ca
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