Please note my comments/concerns on the process here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Plan
copied below — Initial Comments on Plan It would be helpful if the plan were structured more like the Los Angeles, California/Buildings Import <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Los_Angeles,_California/Buildings_Import> documentation. While it's not perfect (relying too much on off-OSM resource like github), it does break up the documentation into helpful sections. Commitment to follow the rules Please ensure that any documentation contains a commitment to follow the Import/Guidelines <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines> and Automated Edits code of conduct <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct>. These are non-negotiable parts of participation in OSM imports. The Ottawa import very definitely falls under the definition of an Automated Edit. As previous activities have been flagged by the Data working group <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_working_group>, it should be assumed that every edit will now be watched and critiqued from afar. Licence While it is generally considered that OGL-CA is acceptable to OSM, the lingering third-party waiver issue is troubling. As the City of Ottawa almost certainly relied on third parties to collect and correct the data, what efforts have the importers made to ensure that OSMF would not face legal claims if a third party could prove that their proprietary data was mixed in with the import? Please document the “considerable effort and research [that] was made to ensure the licensing was correct”. Data permission Please note that the Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Permission <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:Ontario:Ottawa/Import/Permission> link refers to incompatible data. You may wish to seek updated permissions. All imports pre-dating the licence change (mid September 2016) <https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ca@openstreetmap.org/msg07218.html> should be reverted, as they were done without following the import rules. Data availability Please post a link to the original outline data and licence file. I can't support an import of data that we can't inspect. Data schema Please indicate how you will map the fields from the source data to OSM tags. This is a very important part of the process, as it allows users with import experience to make helpful suggestions. Data quality If you wish to delete existing buildings, please prove that the city's data is better. We've run into this problem before in Canada: municipalities want to work with us, but only if we overwrite community data with municipal GIS data. We couldn't accept that, as their data is never better in all ways. Data deletion While you will likely be able to show that some imported outlines are more accurate than existing tracings, please don't delete/overwrite community contributions. Also, under *no* circumstances delete anything other than bad building outlines or erroneous address points. The reverted import deleted Address Interpolation <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses#Using_interpolation> ways (example: Way History: 69590585 <http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/69590585/history>) that other OSM users rely upon. Process comments * The three stage “Import Buildings/Import Addresses/Merge Addresses” process appears cumbersome. Could the import and merge stages be combined offsite, rather than adding lots of edit history? * What steps are you taking to avoid address point duplication? Other municipal imports may have addressed this and have tools available to help. * Is it correct to assume that address points outside a building can be moved over a building? OSMCanada I'm unfamiliar with this term. Who are OSMCanada? Do they claim special standing? I do hope that no representations have been made to the City of Ottawa or Statistics Canada that “OSMCanada” have authority to import data or speak for OSM process beyond being who we all are: just some people who happen to contribute to OSM. How can we help? The Ottawa/Gatineau import pilot shows great potential. With wider community discussion, it could be a paragon of OSM/Government interaction. How can we help move this process along after community concerns are addressed? --Scruss <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Scruss> (talk <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Scruss>) 04:23, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
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