Hi Brian,
In my view we definitely need OSMCanada to go beyond the big cities.
It is not "Canada" if we don't.
In my view the main things that a collection of people cannot do on
their own are:
1) Have a bank account. There are groups that would give and
organization money to do things around OSM. You can't just give money
to an individual. Also might need to look into charitable status
later on so people could give donations and get a tax receipt (more
paperwor overhead for that)
2) Look into getting money from the feds. There have been
announcements about Feds making money available for Smart Cities and
related activities, for sure money cannot go to individuals. I am
waiting to see the details on what they are going to fund.
Monies received could go towards meetups/hosting costs (which people
pay out of their own pocket now) as well as "hiring" people to work on
specific projects which normally they would not spend time on.... or
maybe travel costs to go do a survey in an area which needs help, but
has no expert mappers. or more training activities for folks. I could
also see an educational component whereas it would be great to have
people go into highschool civic classes and do a session on OSM.
3) The Building Canada 2020 project needs some leadership to make
things happen. Having an organization helping to drive that would
make that easier.
4) There are things that some folks across the country have done to
improve their area of the map... would be good to share practices more
broadly, in a Canadian context.
Of course all of these can be done in a private organization (eg like
Mapbox), but I feel that building an organization to represent the
broader community would be more beneficial in the long run.
My 2c.
On 2017-09-28 08:19 AM, Brian Bancroft wrote:
Hi Matthew,
It seems like an interesting idea. I've been travelling a bit
lately, and I've found there's a lot of people out there who don't
know about OSM where the platform is exactly what they need.
Would a robust OSMCanada spread the Gospel beyond the cities? Would
it seek to incorporate local GIS imports on the map with legal
support and task management?
Do we know what an incorporated OSMCanada would do that the informal
association of really nice and diligent people can't do on their own?
I won't be making SoTMUS this year, but I'd love to hear more about
what your aims are with this venture, and the problems you and
others believe (or know) it would solve through incorporation and
(possibly?) sweet government handouts. I'm guessing that these are
the questions you want to crunch out while you're at the gathering
of interesting people.
Best wishes and good luck with this endeavour,
Brian
*From:* jwhelan0...@gmail.com
*Sent:* September 28, 2017 7:06 AM
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*Cc:* talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
*Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] OSM Canada & State of the Map US: Oct 20-22
I hadn't heard of them and I'm in Ottawa but there again I'm not
very sociable. I question why such a decision would be made out of
the country?
Does it matter if someone creates a not for profit Canadian
corporation? I think it would have to change its name though there
have been discussions recently about the use of OSM in names.
Cheerio John
On 27 September 2017 at 21:59, Stewart C. Russell <scr...@gmail.com
<mailto:scr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 2017-09-27 05:49 PM, Matthew Darwin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Are any Canadian folks going to State of the Map US October 20-22
> https://2017.stateofthemap.us/
Nope. Wish I could afford it.
> During the conference, I would like to have a discussion about
turning
> the informal https://www.osmcanada.ca/ into a not-for-profit
Canadian
> corporation.
I'd be opposed. Who are osmcanada? They don't represent me. Last
I heard
it was an informal group of mappers in Ottawa. What would the
non-profit
do? How would it justify its status? Would it be attempting to be an
OSMF Chapter?
Stewart
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