Hi John,
If we want to be able generate mailing addresses from OSM (is that a
valid use case?), then whatever the city address Canada Post thinks we
are in needs to be tagged in some fashion. Google maps and Bing maps
both think I'm in "Kanata". OSM thinks I'm in "Kanata North". Both
are correct, in different ways.
If I we want to do reverse geo coding using OSM data, then the mailing
address should be represented in some fashion because that's what
people expect to see.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr says about addr:city:
/May not be required if boundary=administrative
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative> is
used correctly. May or may not be a clone of is_in:city
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:is_in:city>=* (in some places
the city in the address corresponds to the post office that serves the
area rather than the actual city, if any, in which the building is
located)! The name of the city as given in *postal addresses* of the
building/area. /(emphasis added)
BTW, this is one of the reasons I started all these discussions about
aligning Canada OSM data... I was trying to use OSM to build a map for
a community group and rather than just doing post-cleanup work on the
map data in my own private copy, I thought it might be better to see
what data we could align and make useful for everyone. I'll only take
it as far as consensus is achieved.
On 2018-02-19 11:25 AM, john whelan wrote:
So what we are saying is the city field should be filled in not with
the physical city but with Canada Posts thoughts of the day?
Orleans is different. It never was a municipality.
Cheerio John
On 19 February 2018 at 11:17, Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca
<mailto:matt...@mdarwin.ca>> wrote:
Hi John,
I live in Kanata. If I type my "<number> <street> Ottawa" into
the Canada Post lookup tool
(https://www.canadapost.ca/cpo/mc/personal/postalcode/fpc.jsf?LOCALE=en
<https://www.canadapost.ca/cpo/mc/personal/postalcode/fpc.jsf?LOCALE=en>),
it helpfully corrects me to "Kanata". Same for old "City of
Nepean" addresses. Try "1000 Palladium Drive, Kanata, ON"
(Canadian Tire Center).
As far as I know, within the City of Ottawa, everyone's postal
address uses the pre-amalgamted city names while the city hasn't
yet finished de-duplicating street names. So addr:city should
probably be filled in accordingly.
On 2018-02-19 11:07 AM, john whelan wrote:
I seem to recall from talking to Canada Post that Orleans is
the only location for which that is true. All of Orleans is
located within Ottawa. So how do you tag it? It is within the
City of Ottawa these days.
Thanks John
On 19 February 2018 at 10:44, Matthew Darwin
<matt...@mdarwin.ca <mailto:matt...@mdarwin.ca>> wrote:
Hi Clifford,
(It was good to meet you at SOTM US last year).
Thanks for your comments... The situation with addr:city
appears to me to be more complex than the situation with
addr:province/addr:country, along the lines of what you are
mentioning. My personal home mailing address cannot be
resolved in OSM because the mailing address does not match
any of the boundaries. (OSM boundaries are correct, but
the official post address cannot be resolved from the
boundaries). So I have a feeling that addr:city is going to
be required, at least in some cases.
Do you have a view on addr:province/addr:state or
addr:country? US/Canada probably have more similarities
than differences, so your input is very welcome.
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