Hi all, I have now made the edit at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Canadian_tagging_guidelines&type=revision&diff=1907677&oldid=1898100 and I saw that Matthew has edited a few of the more prominent examples already.
Thanks! --Jarek On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 17:09, Matthew Darwin <matt...@mdarwin.ca> wrote: > > Hi, > > It sounds fine for me. > > On 2019-09-10 7:54 a.m., john whelan wrote: > > Looks good to me and if Matthew has cast his eye over it and not spotted > anything major then I think we can safely say Ottawa is happy with it. > > Cheerio John > > On Mon, Sep 9, 2019, 9:57 PM Pierre Béland via Talk-ca, > <talk-ca@openstreetmap.org> wrote: >> >> Cela semble bien préciser, mais les collègues d'Ontario pourront mieux >> répondre. >> >> Pierre >> >> Envoyé à partir de Yahoo Courriel sur Android >> >> Le lun., sept. 9 2019 à 3:11 PM, Jarek Piórkowski >> <ja...@piorkowski.ca> a écrit : >> Hi Pierre, >> >> (I responded via email at first, but realized one more thing, so >> adding on and sending to talk-ca:) >> >> The proposed wiki addition does start with "In Ontario". However >> thanks bringing this up, as I realized I forgot to account for parts >> of Ontario where streets will be named in French - this change should >> not apply to those. >> >> I am changing the suggested wording to: >> >> In parts of **Ontario** that primarily name streets in English, >> street and road names containing initial "St." or "St" should only be >> expanded to "Saint" when "Saint" is common usage for that street. To >> be clear, this overrides the general rule >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Abbreviation_.28don.27t_do_it.29 >> for "St." which does not stand for "street". As with other names in >> OSM, factors you might want to consider when determining common usage >> include spellings posted on street signs ("on the ground" rule), >> spellings used in local media, GeoBase street name data, and spellings >> used by official municipal sources including open data datasets. See >> discussion on talk-ca [0]. >> >> Would this wording be fine for Ottawa and other bilingual areas, or am >> I missing a pitfall? >> >> Thanks, >> --Jarek >> >> On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 at 08:51, Pierre Béland <pierz...@yahoo.fr> wrote: >> > >> > Marek >> > >> > Ces instructions ne s'appliquent pas à toutes les provinces. Il faudrait >> > donc indiquer sur la page wiki à quelles provinces elles s'appliquent >> > >> > Pierre >> > >> > Envoyé à partir de Yahoo Courriel sur Android >> > >> > Le lun., sept. 9 2019 à 2:51 AM, Jarek Piórkowski >> > <ja...@piorkowski.ca> a écrit : >> > Hello, >> > >> > I'm following up on the thread about saints and lack thereof in street >> > names from a couple of months ago (see archives [1] [2]). >> > >> > I would like to suggest the following wording added to Canadian >> > tagging guidelines at >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canadian_tagging_guidelines#Street_names >> > : >> > >> > In Ontario, street and road names containing initial "St." or "St" >> > should only be expanded to "Saint" when "Saint" is common usage for >> > that street. To be clear, this overrides the general rule >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Abbreviation_.28don.27t_do_it.29 >> > for "St." which does not stand for "street". As with other names in >> > OSM, factors you might want to consider when determining common usage >> > include spellings posted on street signs ("on the ground" rule), >> > spellings used in local media, GeoBase street name data, and spellings >> > used by official municipal sources including open data datasets. See >> > discussion on talk-ca [0]. >> > >> > where [0] would be a link to this message/thread archive. (Comments on >> > the wording and suggestions appreciated!) >> > >> > Is anyone opposed to this change? >> > >> > I have attempted to advertise/announce this proposed change. This was: >> > - posted in this mailing list in March/April of this year (some quoted >> > below, see list archives for more discussion) >> > - I posted a note https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1741334 in >> > Toronto with a link to this thread (supportive responses from Kevo and >> > DannyMcD) >> > - on April 10, sent a message [2] with a link to the note to editors >> > who were showing up as top editors on >> > http://osmstats.neis-one.org/?item=countries&country=Canada >> > (they aren't necessarily representative of the community, but it's >> > really the closest we can reasonably do given our current tooling) [3] >> > (no private message responses) >> > - posted on OSM Canada Slack on 17 August >> > https://osm-ca.slack.com/archives/CASP8UQNT/p1566053199044200 >> > (supportive responses from Matthew Darwin and Eric Geiler) >> > - on August 27, sent a few more private messages to editors in top 50 >> > on the stats page who had done Ontario edits [4] (no private message >> > responses) >> > >> > If you know of anyone else who might have a further opinion on this, >> > please forward as possible. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > --Jarek >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca _______________________________________________ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca