I have created https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/6259 , let's see what comes out of that.
--Jarek On Thu, 8 May 2025, at 19:08, Jherome Miguel wrote: > Similar situation also exists even south of the border, but the US guidelines > have been long discouraging the tagging of unposted speed limits. > > Considering the prevalence of CA:-prefixed maxspeed:type has something to do > with StreetComplete, maybe consider filing an issue ticket at GitHub so > values for Canada should be divided by province and territory. Can say the > same for the US, but would better leave it to the guys south of the border. > > On Thu, May 8, 2025 at 5:02 AM <[email protected]> wrote: >> Send Talk-ca mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Talk-ca digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: maxspeed:type=CA:urban and the like (Jarek Pi?rkowski) >> 2. Re: maxspeed:type=CA:urban and the like ([email protected]) >> 3. Re: maxspeed:type=CA:urban and the like (Jarek Pi?rkowski) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 07 May 2025 09:31:55 -0400 >> From: Jarek Pi?rkowski <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] maxspeed:type=CA:urban and the like >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain >> >> I think this might at least partially be a StreetComplete issue. For example >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/158937395 added >> maxspeed:type=CA:urban in November 2024, or >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/154714996 added CA:rural in August >> 2024. Anyone want to check on StreetComplete's code and Github issues? >> >> There are also some old cases of StreetComplete users adding CA:rural on >> city streets like https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/60230633 in 2018, >> which I think can be removed on sight as clearly wrong? >> >> --Jarek >> >> On Wed, 7 May 2025, at 05:44, Jherome Miguel wrote: >> > Just stumbled upon this >> > maxspeed:type= tag value, CA:urban from a search for tag values for that >> > tag applicable to Canada. Also found other CA:-prefixed values that are >> > less commonly used, CA:rural and CA:motorway. Given traffic laws in Canada >> > are a provincial and territorial matter, I have considered its usage >> > questionable. Province-specific values, prefixed with >> > CA-(province/territory name abbreviation) such as CA-ON:urban for an >> > implied 50 km/h urban speed limit in Ontario better reflect the nature of >> > Canadian traffic laws, but so far, their usage is dwarfed by the >> > CA:-prefixed values. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Talk-ca mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> > >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 07 May 2025 10:17:59 -0400 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] maxspeed:type=CA:urban and the like >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >> >> Didn't many/most urban speed limits in Ontario recently change to >> 40km/hr? >> >> On 2025-05-07 05:44, Jherome Miguel wrote: >> >> > Just stumbled upon this >> > maxspeed:type= tag value, CA:urban from a search for tag values for that >> > tag applicable to Canada. Also found other CA:-prefixed values that are >> > less commonly used, CA:rural and CA:motorway. Given traffic laws in Canada >> > are a provincial and territorial matter, I have considered its usage >> > questionable. Province-specific values, prefixed with >> > CA-(province/territory name abbreviation) such as CA-ON:urban for an >> > implied 50 km/h urban speed limit in Ontario better reflect the nature of >> > Canadian traffic laws, but so far, their usage is dwarfed by the >> > CA:-prefixed values. >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/attachments/20250507/d093f616/attachment-0001.htm> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 07 May 2025 21:18:45 -0400 >> From: Jarek Pi?rkowski <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] maxspeed:type=CA:urban and the like >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> The Ontario regulation remains 50 km/h within a built-up area: >> https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90h08#BK219 , however municipalities can >> set different limits (lower or higher) and many do. >> >> The table in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_Canada looks a >> mess, I don't know if StreetComplete wants to add all these categories. >> There's also a quite long disclaimer in >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed:type#Canada for `CA:urban`. >> >> Personally I think StreetComplete should be setting maxspeed:type in Canada >> as only `sign` and `CA-XX:urban` (as the rural limits vary too much >> depending on type of road) and even that should exclude some provinces (e.g. >> Saskatchewan apparently doesn't have a backstop urban limit if not posted?). >> >> --Jarek >> >> On Wed, 7 May 2025, at 10:17, [email protected] wrote: >> > Didn't many/most urban speed limits in Ontario recently change to 40km/hr? >> > >> > On 2025-05-07 05:44, Jherome Miguel wrote: >> > >> >> Just stumbled upon this >> >> maxspeed:type= tag value, CA:urban from a search for tag values for that >> >> tag applicable to Canada. Also found other CA:-prefixed values that are >> >> less commonly used, CA:rural and CA:motorway. Given traffic laws in >> >> Canada are a provincial and territorial matter, I have considered its >> >> usage questionable. Province-specific values, prefixed with >> >> CA-(province/territory name abbreviation) such as CA-ON:urban for an >> >> implied 50 km/h urban speed limit in Ontario better reflect the nature of >> >> Canadian traffic laws, but so far, their usage is dwarfed by the >> >> CA:-prefixed values. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Talk-ca mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/attachments/20250507/734792bd/attachment-0001.htm> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-ca mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Talk-ca Digest, Vol 207, Issue 3 >> *************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Talk-ca mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca >
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