On 15 Sep 2009, at 08:50, Peter Childs wrote: > 2009/9/15 Peter Miller <peter.mil...@itoworld.com>: >> >> On 15 Sep 2009, at 08:27, Brian Prangle wrote: >> >> Hi everyone >> >> Shelter = yes/no I think is essential to leave in as a requirement >> as to >> whether a bus stop is completley surveyed or not. For two reasons: >> indication of a shelter is a representation of what's present on >> the ground >> and it's a pretty siginificant presence ( after all we tag and map >> smaller >> things like post boxes and park benches!); and it's also useful for >> bus >> passengers to know whether they're going to get wet or not when >> waiting for >> a bus ( for when we can eventually actually render this on maps) >> >> So we can have bench=yes;bin=yes;lamp_post=yes on the same node if >> there are >> these other items attached to it. >> Personally I would prefer bus_stop=shelter/pole/customary/etc/etc to >> shelter=yes/no as it allows much greater richness and gives us a >> place to >> identify as stop as customary easily. It also fits with the pattern >> 'key=x' >> and the 'x=....' with more details of the feature >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Peter > > Do we need to add to this, Request Bus Stops, ie Bus stops where you > need to stick out you hand, From Stops where the bus always stop, Bus > stands; (Where buses stop and have a coffee break) and Bus stations > (Which I suspect is a completely separate tag), > > We need to split what buses do at the stops away from what is at the > stop. I guess.....
This is not a physical attribute of the stop so I agree that it probably belongs in another part of the data. A request stop on one service (or operator) might be a required stop for another (although it is normally only timing points where they have to stop and wait if they are ahead of schedule which might be what you mean). A duty layover (coffee break) may also vary by operator. Bus bays in bus stations do have different tags in NaPTAN (BCS) than ones on the street (BCT) but I don't think we currently make that distinction in OSM and I am not sure it matters a lot. Possibly we make that clear by wrapping it up on a stop area of type 'bus station'. Peter > > Peter. > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb