I would record both - but only if I walked both with GPS in hand - and
add status where I know it - as per my previous response to Ian.
On 19:59, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote:
Ian Spencer wrote:
Sent: 13 May 2010 12:17 PM
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Definitive Ways - tagging? (was Re: Talk-GB Digest,
Vol 44, Issue 19)
I think it would be useful to have a think about how we might tag
validated definitive ways in addition to the public footpath recognising
that there are potentially 3 different versions of a path:
1) The official published rights of way - say from OS.
2) OSM interpretation of rights of way (sourced from a combination of
survey, reinterpretation of LA data and OS data) which could differ.
(The difference between (1)& (2) is the to-do list with the LA
effectively)
3) The walkable paths which are considered by the public to be the way,
even if they are not the formal definition.
While I wouldn't argue with a farmer based on OSM, if we knew what the
derivation was, and the status of any diversions, then at least you can
stride across that newly planted crop with a bit more confidence. I
don't think the current tagging regime exactly covers the above - and I
doubt there is great confidence in the legal validity of of a footpath
tagged in OSM as a Public Footpath.
I just wouldn't go there. It's a big can of worms. If I find a path on the
ground that's what goes in OSM. I try not to worry about whether it's a
public right of way, permissive path or path that might or might not have
rights because its not currently in the LA's ROW statements. Huge numbers of
the latter type of path about of course.
Where I end up doing a walk which takes me across a field (according to the
current OS 1:25k map), but where I don't see any footfall, either across the
field or around it, then I make that first footfall on the alignment of the
OS map as best I can discern it. And the tracklog from that I upload and use
for OSM. If on the other hand I see the OS has the path going straight
through the sugarbeet but the footfall is clearly around the edge of the
field, then it's the field boundary route what I walk, log and put in OSM.
In my view it's not for us to try to be definitive, that's not our role, it
is for us to map footpaths.
Cheers
Andy
It seems to be that there should be a definitive-way tag with status of
yes, disputed, (and implicitly, no) and another of definitive-way-source
as you cannot establish a definitive way by GPS, even though you can for
the de facto line of the path (being able to see the difference could be
useful).
Ian
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote on 13/05/2010 10:51:
Mike,
A very comprehensive reply, thanks for that. It would be worth having
what
you have written on a relevant wiki page as its probably the best write-
up
of the arrangements as we know them.
Cheers
Andy
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Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 44, Issue 19
Hi
My understanding of PRoW law is that:
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