Frederik, Like I said before all these are not scripted/automated and I look for conflicts. I explained the process I used and that seemed to completed with your original post here. Are you saying now it does not? *shrug*
And I use both wiki pages and common practice, like I explained previously. Are there any cases that I have changed where I have not? John > Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:33:11 +0200 > From: frede...@remote.org > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Mass edits of landuse /natural tags > > Hi, > > On 25.04.2013 19:07, John Baker wrote: > > The wiki is a consensus of opinion over the years about how to tag > > things. > > It isn't. There have been more than enough cases where after *years* it > was found that somewhere hidden away in a wiki page there was a > statement that was absolutely not reflecting any kind of consensus. > There are, regularly, votes in which Wiki users decide to "deprecate" > some tag used by thousands, and replace it with something else - all > that with 20 people participating and voting. > > We aim to make the Wiki a good documentation of our work in OSM, but > where Wiki and practice diverge, practice rules. That's why before you > take some wiki page and interpret it as code to modify the database, you > are expected to discuss - to make sure that (a) the wiki page is right, > (b) your reading of the wiki page is right, (c) the algorithm you are > planning to apply has no unfortunate side effects, and so on. > > > To be honest I am less likely to engage in discussion about future edits > > as all they will seem to end in is: always message the original editor, > > always do a manual survey and you don't know what you are doing - all of > > which I strongly disagree with. > > As long as you're making manual edits you can get away with a lot; > people will assume that if you make a specific change then you have > valid reasons for that (e.g. some kind of additional source rather than > just an algorithm). Any sort of mechanical mass-edit requires discussion > so if you don't feel like discussing then you must not make the edit. > > There's scope for widely accepted automatic or mechanical edits. Some > guy in Germany removes, I believe, trailing spaces from names - but only > in Germany because he hasn't discussed this idea outside. It is also > very unlikely that you find someone who objects to e.g. automaticall > yreplacing the mis-typed "highway=residentail" with > "highway=residential". But even such simple things should, if applied in > a wider scope, be discussed beforehand - out of politeless if nothing > else, but also to avoid a potential flaw in your reasoning to go undetected. > > Someone once replaced all name=McDonalds with name=McDonald's, arguing > that that was the correct name of the fast food chain but accidentally > renaming a couple of totall different things that were really called > McDonalds. A short discussion beforehand could helped to avoid that mistake. > > Re. your latest point "you don't know what you're doing" - my impression > is that your attitude is "I know better anyway", an attitude that is > problematic enough in mappers but becomes inacceptable as soon as people > make large-scale edits. > > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
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