sk53.osm wrote:
I don't think Richard's original post was an invitation to discuss arcane quirks
of Britain's historical railway system.

I have raised the issue of wholesale tag changing several times recently, and as
this tagging is clearly not with the consensus of mappers either in the UK or
elsewhere, I would suggest it be reverted.

Casual changing of tags can create a lot of work for people. That is one of the
reasons why it needs to be discussed. In this case the different tag could have
been added rather than obliterate a widely used tag convention.

I would support a reversion of these edits, and ask the contributor to consult
with this list first.

Screwing the ordering of the thread up totally ...
My point to Richard was that there MAY be a valid use for a different tag. Richard was asking if he could change it, but part of the reason for local tagging differences IS because of arcane quirks ... That is not to say that this tags is right ... there is room to clean up a number of the railway related tags ... just that it may be flagging a difference that 'abandoned' looses.

Given the amount of work now being done on additional railway information on the map, proper expansion of the fine detail is important.

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Richard Fairhurst <rich...@systemed.net
<mailto:rich...@systemed.net>> wrote:

    I've just been bitten by the minority, largely undocumented usage of
    railway:historic=rail on a bunch of dismantled/abandoned railways in
    Britain. Having exported some OSM data and done a few days' manual
    processing on it, I belatedly find that various lines are missing due to not
    taking account of this tag and I'm going to have to do a whole bunch more
    work. :(

    Taginfo/Taginfo GB suggest that railway:historic=rail is not used much
    elsewhere in the world, and that railway=abandoned, =disused and =dismantled
    remain the popular choices. No client software appears to take any notice of
    railway:historic=rail.

    Would there be any opposition to gradually reverting uses of this tag to
    railway=dismantled/abandoned, depending on what's on the ground?

    The only documentation I could find (on a wiki discussion page, of all the
    obscure places):
    
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/__wiki/Talk:Railways#railway:__historic.3Dxxx_or_former:__railway.3Dxxx_in_place_of___railway.3Dabandoned.__2Fdismantled.3F
    
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Railways#railway:historic.3Dxxx_or_former:railway.3Dxxx_in_place_of_railway.3Dabandoned.2Fdismantled.3F>


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